Lou Berger wrote:

At 09:00 PM 5/11/2006, Acee Lindem wrote:

3. Would you agree that there could be networks (specifically, L1 networks) and applications that do not use BGP at all and have no plans to use it in foreseeable future which yet could benefit from L1VPN services? Nobody said after all that BGP is a mandatory part of any control plane in any network
layer

I agree that there are optical or other L1 networks that have their own control
plane. I just don't see why one would want to offer VPNs on top of these
without an intervening L3 network.

Thanks,
Acee


Acee,
I think we still have a "context" issue. In this contect the "VPN" is itself a Layer 1 service, e.g., a SONET interface or a lambda. There are no packet services in these networks, only an IP control plane controlling circuits.

Lou,

Understood - but are saying that there is no requirement to ever offer these L1VPN services in parallel with over L2/L3 services over a shared provider network? If you can truly limit the applicable to an environment where the control plane only has the purpose of L1VPNs then I wouldn't be that concerned (although I'd ask that the IANA opaque LSA ID allocation clearly state this - this WG chooses to go forward with this approach).

Thanks,
Acee


Lou


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