Hi Pranav,  

Help me understand here that if we are talking about statically configured key 
on the CEs would it be not better to consider e-signature from verisign instead 
?

Thx,
R.

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From: "Pranav Mehta (pmehta)" <[email protected]>
To: "Robert Raszuk" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Randy Bush" <[email protected]>, "Keyur Patel (keyupate)" 
<[email protected]>, "Arjun Sreekantiah (asreekan)" <[email protected]>, 
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Subject: [Idr] draft-ymbk-l3vpn-origination-00.txt
Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 10:25


Hi Robert,

Thanks for your feedback.  My comments inline.. #P#

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:47 PM
To: Pranav Mehta (pmehta)
Cc: Randy Bush; Keyur Patel (keyupate); Arjun Sreekantiah (asreekan); 
[email protected]; idr wg; L3VPN
Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ymbk-l3vpn-origination-00.txt

Hey Pranav,

Do you really believe that each 7-11 or Walmart store will be subscribing to 
global RPKI or building their own key infrastructure? I do not. It seems few 
orders of magnitude easier to sign advertisements at the src/spoke and validate 
signature at the hub site by the same very network admin residing in the 
enterprise hub location. That is something we should define in BGP for VPNs and 
not trying to reuse origin validation concept which works well (for what it is 
designed to
do) in the Internet case.

#P# I don't think 7-11/Walmart will be subscribing to global RPKI or even build 
their own infrastructure.  RPKI makes it easier to distribute the key but the 
end CE can be configured to use a static Key and this draft doesn't preclude 
provisioning using static configuration.  As far as all the sites belong to 
same network admin, same key can be provisioned on all the sites and in such 
case we don't need to get RPKI infrastructure involved.  If it's not clear from 
the draft, we can definitely change the wording to clarify this.

Btw ,,, I do not buy any "trusted" ASBR business ;)

#P#
In most of the cases I agree that this asymmetric solution might not be 
preferred but think about a scenario where a VPN has few sites connected via 
non-trusted provided and most of the other (may be in thousands) sites are 
connected to a trusted provider.  Instead of upgrading all these sites to 
generated signed NLRIs the VPN can choose to just add the authentication at the 
ASBR boundary to protect prefix origination from un-trusted network.  The goal 
of this draft is to allow the flexibility by adding Key Identifier so that VPN 
is not forced to upgrade all the sites under this scenario.  


Thanks,
-- Pranav

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