You missed my point. I asked about a single label. You answered a label block 
question.

--
Jakob Heitz.


On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:41 PM, "Mingui Zhang" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jim & Jakob,
> 
> I think you proposed a valid point. If we continue this proposal, we should 
> include an operational section. I believe this point applies to all such kind 
> of "fast egress PE node protection" schemes. 
> 
>> What if the primary PE comes online after the backup?
>> What label should the backup use if it can not reach the primary?
>> 
>> You need to think about partitioned networks too.
> 
> If two PEs can reserved a label space to be used as the label range for 
> sharing, the proposal is workable. However, we can slightly relax this 
> constraint, i.e., PEs in an RG MUST reserve one label space for sharing. The 
> PEs in an RG just need a common available label range, right? There are 
> various ways to achieve this. For example, we can divide the label spaces 
> into several blocks beforehand. Give them priorities. When PEs locally 
> allocate labels, blocks with the higher priority will be used earlier. Then 
> PEs in an RG can agree on those common blocks with lower priorities. This 
> relaxation introduces flexibility. Imagine the case that an operator may be 
> not sure about the size of the label space to be reserved at the beginning. 
> In this way, even the primary come online after the backup, it can negotiate 
> a label range for sharing with the backup. 
> 
> At last but not least, even if PEs cannot find a common label range in the 
> worst case or the network is partitioned, the ICCP connection will not be 
> established. In this case, the PEs just fall back to the non redundant mode. 
> So the two scenarios proposed by Jakob can be handled.
> 
> Anyway, I don't think there is no way to achieve such proposal.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mingui
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: L3VPN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of UTTARO, JAMES
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:17 AM
>> To: Jakob Heitz; Lizhenbin
>> Cc: [email protected]; Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
>> Subject: RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing for fast PE
>> protection"
>> 
>> As I stated before an operational section that anticipates running the 
>> network
>> would be useful in this discussion. I would like to see various scenarios,
>> restrictions, failure modes etc..
>> 
>> Jim Uttaro
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jakob Heitz [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:09 PM
>> To: Lizhenbin; UTTARO, JAMES
>> Cc: [email protected]; Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
>> Subject: RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing for fast PE
>> protection"
>> 
>> What if the primary PE comes online after the backup?
>> What label should the backup use if it can not reach the primary?
>> 
>> You need to think about partitioned networks too.
>> It's not as simple as you think.
>> 
>> -- Jakob.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lizhenbin [mailto:[email protected]]
>> 
>> It is not like this way. For the ICCP-based label allocation method, the 
>> primary PE
>> is allocate the label for VPN by its own label allocation algorithm. The 
>> backup PE
>> is just to allocate the label specified by the primary PE. The process is 
>> just like
>> label backup. They need not use the same label allocation algorithm.

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