> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim) [mailto:[email protected]]
> 发送时间: 2013年11月29日 15:55
> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> 抄送: [email protected]
> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复:
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> 
> 
> 
> On 29/11/13 07:56, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月29日 12:59
> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: New
> Version Notification
> >> for draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >>
> >> I believe we have a disagreement here. The trace route is not
> >>providing the  output expected. If you define a solution you need to
> >>ensure the applications  behave in the way IP was designed and as such
> >>your solution is not compliant to  this.
> >
> >I have to emphasize that it's absolutely the expected output in the
> >case where the Proxy ARP [RFC1027] is deployed. Unless you are strongly
> >against the Proxy ARP technology itself which was actually designed at
> >most the same time when IP was initially designed...
> WH> I am not against this, but there are other ways of implementing it
> WH> as
> I mentioned it before and these solution do not have the issues which I 
> outlined.

But these solutions may have issues that you haven't outlined:) Different 
approaches have their different target scenarios. That's the reason why both 
Layer2 and Layer3 overlays are considered by the NVo3 WG.

> >> If you like it or not, it is reality.
> >
> >No matter you like it or now, the approach of using the host routing
> >and the Proxy ARP to emulate an extended subnet has been increasingly
> >implemented by more and more vendors in their data center network
> >products. It's the reality.
> WH> this doesn’t mean that IETF need to adopt it, since it breaks a
> WH> number
> of things

You'd better explicit list those things which would be broken. It would be very 
helpful for the NVo3 WG.

> >Xiaohu
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 29/11/13 02:35, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月28日 18:46
> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: New
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> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >>
> >> >> Please look at the VRF table instance in that example. The packet
> >> >>destined for  2.2.2.x is forwarded according to the default route
> >> >>advertised by PE-3.
> >> >>
> >> >> Since each PE acts as a default GW, there is no impact to the
> >> >>output of the trace  route for an IP address which is not within
> >> >>the same subnet as the trace-route  originator (IMO, this is the
> >> >>major usage of trace route).
> >> >> If you just want to try a trace route for an IP address which is
> >> >>within the same  subnet of the trace-route originator, there are
> >> >>just two more hops (i.e., ingress  PE and egress PE) in the output
> >> >>(see below), does it matter in practice?
> >> >>
> >> >> <Host_1>tracert 1.1.1.5
> >> >> traceroute to  1.1.1.5(1.1.1.5), max hops: 30 ,packet length:
> >> >>40,press CTRL_C t  o break
> >> >> 1 1.1.1.1 40 ms  40 ms  50 ms
> >> >> 2 1.1.1.1 120 ms  80 ms  110 ms
> >> >> 3 1.1.1.5 140 ms  100 ms  90 ms
> >> >> <Host_1>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> WH> and this is what I meant with broken since the trace route is
> >> >> expecting 1 hop iso 3.
> >> >
> >> >It's no more a surprise once you have understood that the
> >> >intra-subnet traffic is forwarded at L3.
> >> >
> >> >As I have said before, there is no impact on the normal trace route
> >> >function. By the way, are you usually using the trace route command
> >> >rather than the PING command on one host to check the connectivity
> >> >to another host when these two hosts are actually within the same subnet?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On 28/11/13 09:45, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月28日 15:44
> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: New Version
> >> >> Notification for
> >> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 28/11/13 08:33, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月28日 14:13
> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: New Version
> >> >> Notification
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On 28/11/13 04:02, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月28日 1:53
> >> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: New Version
> >> Notification
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> On 27/11/13 09:12, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月27日 14:14
> >> >> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: New Version
> Notification
> >> for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are changing the forwarding plane of a L3 service
> >> >> >> >> >> >>and as such this is not  implementable in merchant
> >> >> >> >> >> >>silicon so
> >>far.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>You need a flexible network processor  to do this and I
> >> >> >> >> >> >>am not sure about the performance implications.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Future merchant silicon could be adapted to support such
> >> >> >> >> >> >TTL handling requirement as long as Layer3 forwarding
> >> >> >> >> >> >for intra-subnet traffic is worthwhile in practice. In
> >> >> >> >> >> >addition, even with the existing L3 forwarding chips
> >> >> >> >> >> >which don't support that TTL handling requirement, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >Layer3 overlay could still be applicable to most
> >> >> >> >> >> >applications except a few ones where TTL is set to 1.
> >> >> >> >> >> WH> even with what you say you break basic applications
> >> >> >> >> >> WH> like trace route,
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >No, it will not break the trace-route application. It has
> >> >> >> >> >been successfully verified in our implementation.
> >> >> >> >> WH> can you show an output. W/o the TTL handling your hops
> >> >> >> >> WH> will be
> >> >> >> >> incorrect
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >In the example illustrated at Figure 4 of the draft, the trace
> >> >> >> >route output on Host A is as follows (note that 2.2.2.1 is a
> >> >> >> >vrf interface address of PE-3):
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >[Host_1]tracert 2.2.2.1
> >> >> >> > traceroute to  2.2.2.1(2.2.2.1), max hops: 30 ,packet length:
> >> >> >> >40,press CTRL_C t o break
> >> >> >> > 1 1.1.1.1 60 ms  50 ms  50 ms
> >> >> >> > 2 2.2.2.1 90 ms  60 ms  80 ms
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> WH> figure 4 is addressing 1.1.1.x not 2.2.2.x and the output
> >> >> >> WH> should be
> >> >> >> from a intra-subnet
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Please look at the VRF table instance in that example. The packet
> >> >> >destined for 2.2.2.x is forwarded according to the default route
> >> >> >advertised by PE-3.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Since each PE acts as a default GW, there is no impact to the
> >> >> >output of the trace route for an IP address which is not within
> >> >> >the same subnet as the trace-route originator (IMO, this is the
> >> >> >major usage of trace
> >> >>route).
> >> >> >If you just want to try a trace route for an IP address which is
> >> >> >within the same subnet of the trace-route originator, there are
> >> >> >just two more hops (i.e., ingress PE and egress PE) in the output
> >> >> >(see below), does it matter in practice?
> >> >> >
> >> >> ><Host_1>tracert 1.1.1.5
> >> >> > traceroute to  1.1.1.5(1.1.1.5), max hops: 30 ,packet length:
> >> >> >40,press CTRL_C t o break
> >> >> > 1 1.1.1.1 40 ms  40 ms  50 ms
> >> >> > 2 1.1.1.1 120 ms  80 ms  110 ms
> >> >> > 3 1.1.1.5 140 ms  100 ms  90 ms
> >> >> ><Host_1>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> etc. SO I don’t want to adopt it at all with such impact
> >> >> >> >> >> on the
> >> >> >>DP.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> So why I am against this draft is because it has a big
> >> >> >> >> >> >>impact on the data-plane.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Does EVPN have no impact on the data-plane? Are you
> >> >> >> >> >> >against that draft as well due to its impact on the data 
> >> >> >> >> >> >plane?
> >> >> >> >> >> WH> not in its basic form
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >However, the major selling-point of that technology (i.e.,
> >> >> >> >> >active-active
> >> >> >> >> >multi-homing) is lost in its basic form accordingly.
> >> >> >> >> WH> no its not
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >If no change to the existing data plane, how to realize the
> >> >> >> >following split-horizon function?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >9.3 Split Horizon
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >   Consider a CE that is multi-homed to two or more PEs on an
> >> >>Ethernet
> >> >> >> >   segment ES1 operating in All-Active mode. If the CE sends a
> >> >> >> >   broadcast, unknown unicast, or multicast (BUM) packet to
> >> >> >> > one of
> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >   non-DF (Designated Forwarder) PEs, say PE1, then PE1 will
> >>forward
> >> >> >> >   that packet to all or subset of the other PEs in that EVPN
> >> >>instance
> >> >> >> >   including the DF PE for that Ethernet segment. In this case
> >> >> >> > the DF
> >> >> >>PE
> >> >> >> >   that the CE is multi-homed to MUST drop the packet and not
> >> >>forward
> >> >> >> >   back to the CE. This filtering is referred to as "split
> >>horizon"
> >> >> >> >   filtering in this document.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Sajassi, et al.         Expires January 15, 2014
> >>[Page
> >> >> >>17]
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >INTERNET DRAFT        BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN
> July
> >> >> 15,
> >> >> >> 2013
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >   In order to achieve this split horizon function, every BUM
> >>packet
> >> >> >> >   originating from a non-DF PE is encapsulated with an MPLS
> >> >> >> > label
> >> >>that
> >> >> >> >   identifies the Ethernet segment of origin (i.e. the segment
> >>from
> >> >> >> >   which the frame entered the EVPN network). This label is
> >> >>referred to
> >> >> >> >   as the ESI label, and MUST be distributed by all PEs when
> >> >>operating
> >> >> >> >   in All-Active multi-homing mode using the "Ethernet A-D
> >> >> >> > route per
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> WH> when you use virtual chassis all works naturally and split
> >> >> >> WH> horizon is
> >> >> >> handled by the VC.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> The fundamental difference between the proposals is
> >> >> >> >> >> >>that you have on egress a  mapping in the label that
> >> >> >> >> >> >>determines the forwarding behaviour to be applied,
> >> >> >> >> >> >>rather than having to check src/dst IP matches + LPM lookups.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Are you still talking about L3 overlay service for
> >> >> >> >> >> >intra-subnet
> >> >> >> >> >>traffic?
> >> >> >> >> >> WH> I am talking about this draft
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >If you are talking about the Virtual Subnet draft, then
> >> >> >> >> >your above argument is incorrect. The egress PE would
> >> >> >> >> >perform IP lookup in the corresponding VRF table.
> >> >> >> >> WH> I am talking about the fact when proper TTL handling has
> >> >> >> >> WH> to be
> >> >> >> >> applied, you need to determine whether or not to decrement
> >> >> >> >>the TTL and as  such you end up doing additional lookups to
> >>determine
> >> this.
> >> >> >> >>As such you will  impact performance.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Have you seen performance degradation on your routers once an
> >> >> >> >ACL entry or uRPF check is enabled on interfaces?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> WH> urpf/ACL are handled naturally, but you create a new
> >> >> >> WH> pipeline and look
> >> >> >> at the operations you have to do to check the
> >> >> >>intra/inter-subnet forwarding.
> >> >> >> This is whats avoids to use merchant silicon and what impact
> >> >> >>performance.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Xiaohu
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Xiaohu
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Xiaohu
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 27/11/13 02:31, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]>
> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Fine. In my draft, both intra-subnet and inter-subnet
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >IP traffic are forwarded at layer3 while in the draft
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you mentioned below only inter-subnet traffic would
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >be forwarded at layer3. They are totally different
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >approaches and therefore it's meaningless to say
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >which one is easier
> >> >>or not.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Xiaohu
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月25日 19:16
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: New Version Notification for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Lets debate the technical solutions iso blogs.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 25/11/13 08:52, "Xuxiaohu" <[email protected]>
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I suggest you read the following blog post by
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yakov
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>(http://opencontrail.org/why-contrail-is-using-bgpmpls/).
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月25日 15:27
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: New Version Notification for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> There are easier ways to do this which don’t
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>required data-plane changes.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-e
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vpn
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>ter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-su
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>bne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>t-f
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>orw
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>ard
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> g-02
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 25/11/13 07:40, "Xuxiaohu"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月25日 14:29
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 抄送:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 主题: Re: 答复: New Version Notification for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is not about TTL 1, no TTL decrement
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>should happen for intra-subnet  forwarding at
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>all On top you need to modify the data-plane
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>to achieve this, since it now needs to find
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>out if it is intra or inter subnet where
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>current
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>PE(s)  don’t have to do
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sure, it needs some change to the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >implementation of PE
> >> >> >> >> >>routers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's why we need a draft to specify the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >implementation
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>requirements.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 25/11/13 07:22, "Xuxiaohu"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Wim,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It said clearly "if the source and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >destination addresses of a packet whose TTL
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >is set to 1 belong to the same extended
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >subnet, both ingress and egress PE routers
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >MUST NOT decrement the TTL of
> >> >>such
> >> >> packet."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Did you doubt that the PE routers could know
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >whether the source and destination address
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >belong to the same
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> extended subnet?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Xiaohu
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月25日 14:08
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Xuxiaohu; [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 抄送:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>[email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>g
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 主题: Re: New Version Notification for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On the TTL issue I believe this is not
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> addressing the
> >> >> >> >> >>issue.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>We can say don’t  decrement but when and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>how will the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>PE(s) do or
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>don’t.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 25/11/13 03:22, "Xuxiaohu"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Hi all,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Major changes since the -01 version include:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >1) add a section about TTL consideration;
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2) remove the section of PE Router FIB
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Reduction;
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >3) remove the section of PE Router RIB
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Reduction;
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Any further comments are welcome. BTW,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the removed sections as mentioned above
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >would be described in
> >> >> >> >> >>separate
> >> >> >> >> >> docs.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Best regards, Xiaohu
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发件人: [email protected]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>[mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年11月25日 10:10
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 收件人: Brendan Fee; Susan Hares; Fan
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Yongbing; Xuxiaohu; Xuxiaohu; Christian
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Jacquenet; Truman Boyes; Yongbing Fan
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 主题: New Version Notification for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-02.txt
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