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Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote:
> Trivial confinement is profoundly
> (and deliberately) weaker. This may actually be good for Marcus's
> objectives, but it seems useful to understand precisely what is being
> lost technically, and what impact this may have in practice.
> 
> So I will start a new thread for this first.
> 

This is great. I'd like to say that all this discussion has been
extremely confusing.
I tried to sketch it a bit at
http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hurd/HowMuchConfinementDoWeWant.
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