Hi.  Today, Jan 31 starting at 1 p.m there will be a live broadcast from
Iraq with a team of journalists assembled  by Dennis Bernstein including
Robert Fisk.  I got this from KPFA, but it may well be on KPFK.  It will
offer discussion and insight not otherwise available on the airwaves; a
unique and likely invaluable event.
Ed

 [1]http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17716

   New York Review of Books     February 10, 2005

   The last Palestinian
   By Hussein Agha and Robert Malley

   1.

   Much as his political ascent gave shape to the contemporary
   Palestinian landscape, Yasser Arafat's death will fundamentally
   transform it. Arafat was unique, and uniquely suited to his people's
   condition following the 1948 war: defeated, dispossessed, and
   dispersed, without a state to defend them, a territory to hold them,
   or a political strategy to unite them. Palestinians were divided by
   family, class, and clan, scattered throughout the region and beyond,
   exploited by the competing purposes of many and prey to the ambitions
   of all. By dint of his history and personality, charisma and guile,
   cajoling and bullying, luck and sheer perseverance, Arafat came to
   represent them equally and to emerge as the face of the Palestinian
   people, to them and to the world.


   Arafat's paramount goal was national unity, without which he believed
   nothing could be achieved. He was the bridge between Palestinians in
   the Diaspora and those on the inside, those who were dispossessed in
   1948 and those who were occupied in 1967, West Bankers and Gazans,
   young and old, rich and poor, swindlers and honest toilers, modernists
   and traditionalists, militarists and pacifists, Islamists and
   secularists. He was national leader, tribesman, family elder,
   employer, Samaritan, head of a secular-nationalist movement, and
   deeply devout all at once, aspiring to be the preeminent embodiment of
   each of these disparate groups, even when they held opposing views.
   His style was often criticized and disparaged but his preeminent
   position was seldom questioned. No Palestinian leader is l ikely to
   reproduce his kind of politics, almost certainly not under conditions
   of occupation, and unquestionably not right now.


   The man chosen to succeed him is in most ways different but in one
   critical respect the same. Abu Mazen is, like Arafat, a rarity: a
   genuinely national Palestinian figure. But he is so in radically
   dissimilar fashion. Where Arafat attained national status by
   identifying with and belonging to every single constituency and
   factional interest, Abu Mazen did so by identifying with none. Arafat
   immersed himself in local politics; Abu Mazen floats above it, his
   service being to the national movement as a whole. The Old Man, with
   inexhaustible bravado, ruled through an overwhelming and overpowering
   rhetorical and physical presence. Unassuming and understated, a man of
   few words but many deeds, the new president has built a career running
   from the limelight. He was born in what is now Israel in 1935 and left
   in 1948. A founding member of Fatah, secretary-general of the PLO
   Executive Committee, an adviser to Arafat, and principal
   behind-the-scenes negotiator from the Madrid Conference in 1991 to the
   Oslo Accords in 1993, he was often influential, but seldom visible.
   Until now, his one brush with public office was his short-lived tenure
   as prime minister in 2003. With Arafat's passing, the politics of
   weightiness are over; enter the politics of the light touch.


   Arafat inhabited a Borgesian world wh ere a thing and its opposite
   could cohabit at the same point in space and time; where what mattered
   was the impact of language, not the actual meaning of words; and where
   myths combined with facts to produce reality. Abu Mazen's world is
   more rooted in what is familiar and recognized by most people as the
   order of things. His language is of the acceptable, more everyday
   variety, his reality far less animated by the ghosts of the past.
   Instead of the politics of ambiguous and creative intensity, he stands
   for the politics of cool and clear rationality.

   2.

   Abu Mazen is a politician of conviction, which is to say, until
   recently, not much of a politician at all. His behavior is rarely
   scheming; it is, if anything, a pure outgrowth of his emotional and
   temperamental makeup, a feature that accounts for his many successes
   and not a few of his setbacks. Guided by a deep sense of ethics,
   repugnance for sheer political expediency, and an exaggerated faith in
   the power of reason, he will seldom give in or fight back when
   rebuffed or slighted. Convinced that he has logic and reason on his
   side, and equally convinced that logic and reason are the faculties
   that guide all others, he would much rather passively wait until in
   due course people see things his way. There is little of the
   manipulator, deceiver, or conspirator in [DEL: him, which is perhaps
   why he is so unforgiving of the :DEL] manipulations, deceptions, and
   conspiracies of others. That was the key to his seesaw relationship
   with Arafat: because he did not hesitate to disagree with the Old Man,
   he chose seclusion over confrontation or compromise; because even in
   his anger Arafat knew that, unlike so many of his colleagues, Abu
   Mazen's motivations were sincere rather than opportunistic, he rarely
   lost trust in him and almost always forgave him.


   Abu Mazen is also a profoundly pious Muslim. Inspired by Islam but
   allergic to its role in politics, he prays [DEL: daily and fasts at
   Ramadan but publicizes neither, feeling :DEL] as he does that religion
   is a matter of private belief, not public display, let alone public
   regulation. In his now regular dealings with leaders of Hamas or
   Islamic Jihad, this gives him an unmistakable edge; he is convinced he
   is no less a Muslim than they are, and when he meets a self-proclaimed
   Islamist politician, he sees the politician, not the Islamist.


   Most importantly, he holds to a core set of principles which he is
   disinclined to depart from or compromise. In the fall of 1999, in the
   aftermath of Ehud Barak's election as Israel's prime minister, he
   presented US officials with a straightforward proposal for a final
   deal: a Palestinian state within the borders of June 4, 1967; East
   Jerusalem as its capital; and recognition of the principle of the
   refugees' right of return. Within those "parameters," and consistent
   with international legality, he left room for discussion. There would
   be minor and equitable swaps of land to take account of some Israeli
   settlements; provisions to allow Jews unimpeded access to their holy
   sites; and the right of return would be implemented in a manner that
   would not threaten Israel's demographic interests. But prior
   acceptance of the basic proposal was paramount, for without it there
   could be neither international legitimacy nor a just peace. The US and
   Israel ignored his suggestion. Negotiations progressed along a
   bazaar-like path of posturing and deal-making, untethered to any core
   principle: the percentages of West Bank territory to be turned over by
   Israel varied furiously, as did the proposed allocation of sovereignty
   over East Jerusalem and the number of refugees allowed to resettle in
   Israel.


   This mode of negotiating was anathema to Abu Mazen, who believed
   that nothing good would come of it, feeling it was counterproductive for
   Palestinians and, to the extent it raised false expectations about the
   scope of possible Palestinian compromises, dishonest to Israelis.
   When, in addition, his suggestion in the spring of 2000 for secret
   negotiations between nonofficials from each side was spurned by Barak,
   and other, less suitable Palestinian officials were selected to lead
   the talks, he essentially checked himself out.

   ----------------

   Uncomfortable with how negotiations had proceeded up until the Camp
   David summit, Abu Mazen was adamantly opposed to the outbreak of
   violence that followed it. Violence long struck him as pointless and
   unsound, tantamount to using the weakest Palestinian weapon to assail
   Israel's strongest flank. Abu Mazen looked at violence in purely
   cost-benefit terms, and while the costs were high, benefits were few:
   Israelis closed ranks, the United States took sides, the international
   community turned its back, and the Palestinian Authority fell apart.
   Instead, he believes the goal ought to be to engage with various
   Israeli political groups, talk in a language that Washington
   understands, and rally the world to the Palestinians' cause. To that
   end, < SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt;
   mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Palestinians must stabilize the situation,
   restore law and order, rein in all armed militias, build transparent,
   legitimate centralized institutions, and, above all, cease armed
   attacks against Israel. In his vision, means and ends mesh: if
   Palestinians make a fair case, they can get a fair hearing. Out of
   Palestinian restraint will come both stronger international support
   and greater receptivity by the Israeli public to logical demands.


   His belief in persuasion and principle over violent pressure is a
   risky and, to many Palestinians, a reckless one. As they see it,
   Palestinians did not militarize the confrontation, Israel did; in the
   opening weeks of the intifada, the overwhelming number of casualties
   were Palestinian, not Israeli; when tentative and informal cease-fires
   were reached, Israel breached them; and if Palestinians stop fighting,
   they would unilaterally disarm, removing all pressure on Israel to
   compromise.


   Abu Mazen's different view is informed by his long experience with
   Israel. As part of a PLO threesome, along with Yasser Arafat and
   Khalil El-Wazir (Abu Jihad), he oversaw contacts with Israelis as of
   the mid-1970s. Though these began with fringe, anti-Zionist activists,
   they gradually were to include Arab-Israelis, the Zionist left,
   moderate former military officers, and members of the Labor Party.
   After the Oslo Accords, Abu Mazen expanded his reach to include less
   obvious but, in his eyes, more relevant forces: the Likud and Orthodox
   Jews. From those exchanges, he concluded that Israeli society was both
   intriguingly complex in its divisions and disarmingly simple in its
   aspirations, which are to achieve normalcy and security. If offered
   that outcome, Israelis, in his view, ultimately would be willing to
   make the concessions required for a stable and just peace a conviction
   that strikes some Palestinians as the height of naiveté, others as the
   pinnacle of pragmatism.

   3.

   Abu Mazen, a man without a genuine following, has become a man
   without an effective opposition. This largely accounts for his smooth and
   uncontested path to power. Four years into a grueling and devastating
   armed confrontation with Israel, and with the loss of the only leader
   they have known, Palestinians are in shock, afraid and tired. Neither
   the public nor any significant constituent group is in the mood for a
   fight; Abu Mazen, who was the first choice of no single constituency,
   was every constituency's natural one. He is today the last Palestinian
   with national stature and historic credentials, the only one who can
   authentically speak on behalf of all. Any other leader doubtless would
   have triggered a protracted, costly, and divisive struggle for
   succession. His election, in short, was less an exercise in conferring
   legitimacy than in confirming it.


   A multitude of divergent interests has coalesced around him.
   Palestinians frightened that Arafat's death would bring further chaos
   see in Abu Mazen the reassuring symbol of personal security and
   collective stability. To the many who are simply exhausted by the
   intifada, he is viewed as the most likely to bring about calm and
   perhaps even some improvements in their situation. To militants hunted
   down by Israel, he could be the one to negotiate an amnesty that
   allows them to recover normal lives. Members of the business community
   and the social elite believe he understands their needs and can create
   a climate more supportive of their commercial interests. Members of
   the entrenched bureaucracy that grew alongside the Palestinian
   Authority, resentful of losses incurred since the uprising, are
   hopeful that Abu Mazen will restore them to the position they enjoyed
   after 1993. To Palestinian refugees and members of the Diaspora,
   worried that their interests will be discarded once negotiations
   resume, his origins in the now Israeli town of Safad, his record of
   political struggle outside the territories, and his long support for
   the right of return provide some comfort. Then there are those who
   have closed ranks around the person deemed to have been anointed by
   the only power that counts, the US, their preference being in effect a
   reflection of the imagined preferences of others.

   ----------------

   Circumstances have made for strange bedfellows. With Israel's
   scheduled withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, distrust between Palestinian
   West Bankers (who fear Gaza will go its own way) and Gazans (who fear
   their West Bank counterparts will seek to scuttle the disengagement)
   has reached new heights. Yet the two sides have rallied around Abu
   Mazen, who is viewed as beholden to neither and therefore
   unthreatening by both. Some expected that young Fatah members would
   challenge him, but the succession came too soon and defying the
   established leadership of an already deeply divided movement would
   have been too costly. Instead, self-styled future leaders saw in Abu
   Mazen someone unaffiliated with any particular faction, a guarantor of
   continuity, and, most of all, an optimal transitional figure during
   whose rule others could prepare to take over. Meanwhile, old Arafat
   loyalists concerned for their positions such as members of the Fatah
   Central Committee cling to him as insurance against the suspected
   ambitions of these newcomers.


   Hamas and Islamic Jihad are well aware that Abu Mazen's program is
   incompatible with theirs, that he rejects violence and the existence
   of armed militias. But they have lived with him before, and are
   confident they can do so again. They believe they know his waysâto
   co-opt, not to crush. Convinced that Israel will not give him a fair
   chance and that he therefore will fail, they can afford to wait for
   the next round while benefiting from an overdue respite. As for the
   the US, Israel, Europe, and Arab countries, Abu Mazen not only
   believes in the agenda they claim to hold dear ending armed attacks,
   building Palestinian institutions, asserting the rule of law but, more
   significantly, is viewed as the only Palestinian remotely capable of
   delivering it.


   Among this wide array of domestic and international constituents,
   those who adhere fully to his political vision are few and those who
   believe he ultimately will see things their way are many. But for now,
   Abu Mazen is relatively free to speak and act on his own, freer no
   doubt than either he or most others expected. Because they came to him
   rather than he to them, he is under surprisingly little pressure from
   the very same groups that Arafat perpetually sought to placate and
   that, in turn, sought to tie his hands. Whatever competing centers of
   power once existed are for now ess entially dormant, unwilling or
   unable to form an organized and effective opposition. Perhaps most
   importantly, he has achieved this position because more than any other
   Palestinian leader today his political inclinations are in harmony
   with his people's immediate priorities: security and the aspiration
   for a normal life free of fear of Israeli attacks and Palestinian
   gangs; material betterment and resumption of basic economic activity;
   and freedom of movement, the ability once again to circulate without
   constant roadblocks, curfews, and humiliation. Ironically,
   Palestinians now aspire to many of the conditions that prevailed prior
   to the intifada, conditions that to a large extent set it off, and
   that, in their minds, Abu Mazen is best equipped to restore.

   4.

   Ariel Sharon has won the current round of the Israeliâ Palestinian
   conflict. His goal, an age-old objective, was for Palestinians to tire
   of their national struggle. To bring about the impoverishment and
   despair of the Palestinian people was never his purpose as such, but
   he viewed that result as a prerequisite to diverting the Palestinians'
   concentration from political issues to mundane matters of more
   immediate, quotidian concern. He appears to have achieved this
   ambition, an outcome Abu Mazen long predicted, which is why at the
   very outset of the armed intifada in 2000 he called for it to end.


   The uprising, he warned, would hurt Palestinians more than Israelis;
   ultimately, they would have to return to square one, cease the
   uprising and rebuild their lives, only more divided, battered, and
   isolated than before.

   Palestinian exhaustion suits both men's purposes for now, though they
   differ sharply on what they intend to do with it. In Sharon's eyes, it
   provides a welcome means to depoliticize the Palestinian national
   movement; in Abu Mazen's, it is a necessary phase before the
   Palestinian nation can be repoliticized on new grounds.


   The Palestinian leader holds little hope that a comprehensive
   settlement can be reached with Ariel Sharon. Too much separates them,
   not least the Israeli prime minister's preference for a long-term
   interim agreement in which hard issues, such as the final borders,
   status of Jerusalem, and fate of refugees, are indefinitely put off.
   With such differing notions, the immediate period is not the time for
   a bilateral agreement but for unilateral steps, with Israel
   withdrawing from Gaza and the northern West Bank and Palestinians
   putting their house in order. Negotiations leading to a permanent
   settlement remain his goal, but he does not think that the other side
   is ready yet. By rebuilding Palestinian institutions and the national
   movement itself, genuinely renouncing violence, rekindling
   international ties, and clearly articulating basic and unalterable
   Palesti nian requirements, he believes the post-Sharon stage can be
   prepared for or even accelerated and that, in the intervening time,
   his people will reap the benefits of newfound and long-awaited
   tranquillity.

   -------------------

   This unquestionably is a gamble. Abu Mazen's support is as wide as it
   is fickle, a reflection of circumstance far more than of adherence to
   his person or program. The current state of shock among Palestinians
   is likely to subside, their fear to abate, and their exhaustion to
   end, at which point demands of a more political kind for Israel to
   release Palestinian prisoners, stop settlement construction, or end
   the occupation, for example are likely to be voiced. As time passes,
   choices inevitably will have to be made, and enemies too. Some who
   half-heartedly support him now will break ranks, the prospect of an
   organized and effective opposition will arise, and calls for renewed
   violence will be heard. Abu Mazen hopes that, by then, he will have
   produced tangible returns in the form of stability, law and order,
   improved standards of living, and freedom of movement, accumulating
   political capital more quickly than he spends it and compensating for
   the loss of support from some constituents by the consolidation of
   support from others.


   To succeed, Abu Mazen is banking heavily on support from the
   international community, princ ipally the United States, to get beyond
   the immediate, material improvements in the Palestinians' situation.
   Ending violence and implementing institutional reforms are causes he
   believes in deeply and that he would carry out for the good of the
   Palestinian people, no matter what. But he also sees an important side
   benefit, which is to put President Bush to the test and confront him
   with his words. More than once, Bush has said that reining in militant
   groups and democratizing Palestinian society would lead to a two-state
   solution. If the Palestinians live up to their commitments, Abu Mazen
   hopes, the United States will have to live up to its own, putting
   pressure on Israel to make the political concessions that he
   desperately will need.


   Abu Mazen also is relying on changes within Israel, expecting that the
   quieter situation he will produce can lead to domestic pressure for a
   comprehensive deal, as opposed to popular contentment with the status
   quo.


   If that can be done quickly enough, Palestinian impatience can be
   managed, and a return to armed confrontation averted. In short, he
   must extract sufficient movement sufficiently soon from Israel and the
   international community lest the now tired Palestinians eventually
   tire of him as well. This is, h e knows, the very same gambit that he
   vainly attempted during his unsuccessful prime ministership, albeit
   with three critical differences: Arafat is gone, Palestinians are more
   willing to give Abu Mazen a chance, and Israel and the US have had
   time to learn from that unfortunate precedent.


   Here too, the difference with Arafat is palpable. Whereas Abu Mazen
   stands where he does today because the popular mood is in tune with
   him, Arafat stood where he did for so long because he labored
   tirelessly to remain in tune with the popular mood. By actively
   engaging with every domestic Palestinian constituency, Arafat ensured
   that his status was impervious to circumstances; by remaining above
   the fray, Abu Mazen is ensuring that his status will be inextricably
   tied to them. Abu Mazen enjoys a power that is at once more nearly
   absolute and more likely temporary. Unburdened by the need to cater to
   every constituency, his margin of maneuver is remarkably broad. But
   should the prevailing mood change, the US fail to pressure Israel, or
   Israel fail to respond, t he consensus that has swiftly formed around
   him will just as quickly evaporate.

   --------------

   He confronts two additional and paradoxical challenges. First, because
   his principal asset is international credit rather than domestic
   credibility, and because Palestinians are convinced that the US can
   get from Israel what they themselves cannot, ultimately more will be
   expected of him than of Arafat. Second, insofar as his backing is
   chiefly the result of popular fatigue, the more he succeeds in
   improving the situation, the more he risks chipping away at his own
   support.


   Among potential landmines, two lie immediately ahead. The first is
   Israel's disengagement from Gaza. This is not something he can oppose:
   land is being turned over to Palestinians and, for the first time in
   the history of the conflict, settlements are to be evacuated. Gaza,
   free of Israel's presence, can be rebuilt and serve as a model for the
   rest of the occupied territories. But it also is something he cannot
   afford to warmly embrace: many of his people fear that with all eyes
   fixed on Gaza, the withdrawal there will be accompanied by a greater
   thickening of settlement blocs inside the West Bank, more Israeli
   construction in the strategic area of Jerusalem, and continued
   building of the separation fence, all part of a suspected broader plan
   to impose long-term, de f acto borders that will divide the West Bank
   into cantons. Balancing between these two considerations, Abu Mazen is
   likely to praise the Gaza withdrawal as an achievement that is part of
   the road map, keeping any coordination with the Israelis to a minimum
   and keeping the bulk of international attention on the West Bank.


   The second landmine is one he knows to be in the offing: an Israeli
   proposal to establish a Palestinian state with interim borders in Gaza
   and parts of the West Bank. Eager for a political achievement, and
   obsessed with the imperative of institution-building, the United
   States and Europe are likely to press for his approval; even some Arab
   countries, desperate for stability and for any sign of progress, can
   be expected to join the chorus. But what some see as an Israeli
   concession, Abu Mazen sees as a trap, an attempt to defuse the
   conflict, deprive it of its emotional power, reduce it to a simple and
   manageable border dispute, and defer a comprehensive settlement. He
   will strive to find a way neither to alienate important international
   backers nor break faith with his own deep-seated conviction that the
   proposal is a ruseâthough how he can do both, at this point, even he
   does not know.

   5.

   Power undoubtedly will affect him, as it affects all who sample it.
   Already, he has had to acquire, or feign, a taste for the oratory and
   the pressing of the flesh for which Arafat was famous. More broadly,
   his political survival will require the kind of tough balancing act he
   typically disdained and generally left to the Old Man: focusing on
   material improvement without neglecting political issues; maintaining
   Israeli and American confidence without losing that of Hamas or of
   Islamic Jihad; disciplining the armed militias without crushing them;
   looking out for the older generation without disappointing the new;
   maintaining Fatah's unity without being hamstrung by it; fulfilling US
   demands without appearing to < TT>comply with all of its wishes;
   ending the violence without seeming to submit to Israelâand, of
   course, moving away from Arafat's legacy without breaking with it.
   Over time, the fundamental challenge will be whether he can reconcile
   the numerous expectations he now embodies and channel the somewhat
   lukewarm backing he enjoys from often competing groups into active
   support for himself and his policies. In this sense, the election
   results both overestimate and underestimate his strength: the more
   than 60 percent who voted for him did not all endorse his platform,
   and the more than 30 percent who did not vote for him do not make up a
   coherent, unified, and effective opposition.


   There are, too, a series of unanswered questions. What will happen if
   Abu Mazen cannot deliver what the US and Israel require, and what will
   happen if Bush and Sharon do not produce what Abu Mazen needs?
   What if Abu Mazen is unable to reach a deal with Hamas, Islamic Jihad,
   and Fatah militants, or if he reaches a deal but it does not hold, or if
   it holds but Israel continues its military attacks? What if the
   fragile political consensus around him breaks down or if violent
   infighting breaks out?


   During his ephemeral tenure as prime minister in 2003, at a time when
   he enjoyed the support of the United States, the help of the United
   Nations, of Europe, and of much of the Arab world, we asked in these
   pages why, in the midst of such a crowd, he felt so lonely.[*] He
   operated then without popular support, with substantial opposition, and
   in the shadow of a founding and interloping father. A year a half later,
   the father is no more and every significant Palestinian constituency
   now looks to Abu Mazen and relies on him. He has become
   the object of countless, often incompatible, desires. A protector and
   a savior, a transitional figure and a generation's last best hope, the
   devil they know for some and the lesser of all evils for others: to
   Palestinians, Abu Mazen has become all of these, all at once. It has
   become crowded out there, and isolated he certainly is no longer. As
   he looks upon what lies ahead, he at times must wonder where all his
   constituents have come from, how long they will stand by him, and what
   he has done to deserve their abundant and often cumbersome company.

References

   1. http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17716

***

Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit

Prensa Latina, Havana
http://www.plenglish.com

Hamas Wins Big in Gaza Strip Poll

Beirut, Jan 28 (Prensa Latina) The Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)
has won a huge victory in local polls in Gaza Strip, obtaining 77 of the
118 posts sought after by tens of districts.

The Palestinian media quoted election officials as confirming the
victory of the Palestinian militant group, while results are still to be
officially announced.

Al Fatah, the organization headed by Palestinian President Mahmoud
Abbas, placed in second position with 26 seats, while independent
candidates obtained 14 seats and the Popular Front for the Liberation of
Palestine got one.

Predictions of election results in Gaza Strip have revealed that
Hamas could have large support from voters.

 In addition to condemning and fighting against the Israeli
occupation of Palestinian territories, the Islamic Resistance Movement
also socially collaborates in the creation of schools and day care
centers, which benefit the poor population in the area.

ile/ajs/mt







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