Hi.  I've also gotten many responses to the speech, none
noting the religiosity Rabbi Waskow here aptly addresses.  But
I myself was startled by his opening of what otherwise was
a powerful analysis and series of proposals put out for
consideration.  As a showman, I understand completely the
attention value of what he did, but also anticipated the rest
being conveniently ignored by those who oppose the meat
of his address, allowing a crucial debate to be sidetracked,
lots of people to be intimidated and opinions stiffled.  Major
media in the U.S. almost uniformly treated the speech in this
way. On the other hand, we're now talking about it and Comsky's
book sales are going through the roof.  We shall see.
Ed

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Subject: Readers' Responses to Hugo Chavez' Speech at UN


Readers' Responses - Hugo Chavez's Address to the UN

President Chavez made a terrible error in his speech at the UN
yesterday. Here in North America we know that Bush is not the
Devil; Cheney is the Devil. Any stink of sulfur that Chavez
detected at the podium may well have remained from Bush's
appearance, but it must have rubbed off on Bush during his
many sessions sitting on Cheney's knee, learning to transmit
his Master's voice...

I am concerned about the sudden prominence of All-or-Nothing
charges of religious EVIL against the Other, whether  it's
Chavez attacking Bush as the Devil, or the Pope's quotation of
attacks on the Quran and on the prophet Muhammad, peace be
upon him, or born-again Christian Bush's demonization of the
Evil Axis, or President Ahmedinajad's linking of his Muslim
piety to "Death to Israel," or the recent "ruling" by  a bunch
of rabbis that "enemy" civilians are owed no protection when
the Jewish state is waging war.

When did Black-and-White become the favored gown of priests
and rabbis, presidents and rebels?  What happened to those
most religious forms of color, the rainbow and the gray-scale?
And what happened to the religious precept to look inward to
correct our own sins, as well as outward to correct those of
others?

Shalom,

- Arthur (Rabbi Arthur Waskow)

Rabbi Arthur Waskow, co-author, The Tent of Abraham; director,
The Shalom Center www.shalomctr.org, which  voices a new
prophetic agenda in Jewish, multireligious, and American life.

= = =

Thank you Arthur.

- Joseph Gerson
American Friends Service Committee

= = =

Wow, if you read this, what a different impression than what
was on the 10 p.m. news last night [Sept 21 - mod.] (big
surprise . . . ).

- Deb Mailander

= = =

Dear Friends,

Having heard Chavez' speech in its entirety ( in translation
for me,unfortunately) I think Chavez reference to the Devil
must be taken as what it was, a use of humor for its eye-
opening effect. I wish I could see the video but just reading
the text, which I include below, you can see that he is very
specific in his concern about American empire -- which is what
it is -- and what needs to be done to turn it back. I don't
think it was an All-or-Nothing charge of Religious EVIL
against the Other, or comparable to the Pope's quotation or
Bush's Axis of Evil, or Ahmedinajad's Death to Israel of the
rabbis' ruling re enemy civilians.

Chavez stated quite clearly that he knew the American people
want peace. Many scholars have noted the way the United
Nations has been misused for US purposes. Chavez challenges the
UN to act as a real agent for peace.Perhaps the means are
present but the will is lacking in the General Assembly.He
quite clearly wants Venezuela to have a seat on the Security
Councilnext year. That would be a good thing. Perhaps a
Security Council with a stronger countervailing voice would
have not been quick to ratify the US occupation of Iraq by
passing resolutions recognizing US rule there and turningover
the Oil for Food resources to the CPA. Just a single instance
of the need for a voice of challenge in the UNSC. Perhaps the
UNSC can move at such time as when the US throws up a naval
blockade at Iran's ports -- Phillis Bennis suggests this
possiblity, with the scenario that if Iran responds to this
move of aggression, as it is, with an attack on the US ships
as permitted under article 51 of the UN Charter, the US would
take that as justification for an all out bombing assault on
Iran.

- Carolyn Scarr
Sept 21, 2006

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Michael Munk
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: Pelosi calls Chavez a "thug"; Rangel also upset



Charlie Rangel has joined Pelosi: he doesn't like Chavez dissing "my
president." You can send Nancy your views through
http://www.housedemocrats.gov/contact/index.cfm; Charlie only by phone:
(202) 225-4365 or Fax: (202) 225-0816


Pelosi calls Chavez a "thug"
Reuters, Sept 21, 2006

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One of  President George W. Bush's fiercest political
opponents at home took his side on Thursday, calling Venezuelan President
Hugo Chavez a "thug" for his remark that Bush is like the devil.

"Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an
everyday thug," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news
conference, referring to Chavez' comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech
on Wednesday.
"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had, speaking at the United
Nations," said Pelosi, a frequent Bush critic. "He demeaned himself and he
demeaned Venezuela."

Simon Bolivar led the fight for independence against Spanish rule in several
South American countries in the early 19th century and is cited by Chavez as
a political model.

Chavez, a vociferous critic of Bush and the United States, has allied
himself with U.S. opponents Cuba and Iran and has led a resurgence of
left-wing populism in Latin America.

"The devil himself is right in the house. And the devil came here yesterday.
Right here," Chavez said as he stood at the U.N. podium where Bush spoke the
day before.

"It smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front
of," Chavez said.

His remarks drew applause from many of the delegates.

Bush administration officials have not responded directly to Chavez's
remarks.

"I am not going to dignify a comment by the Venezuelan president to the
president of the United States. I think it is not becoming for a head of
state," Secretary of State  Condoleezza Rice said on Wednesday.

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