Jubilee Shine is almost completely right in his response to this naltionalist position. Save that the argument below his advocates national capitalism and not the mis-named 'national-socialism' a la Hitler, et nauseum. National capitalism, a position advocated by Lou Dobbs of CNN, former presidential candidate and political talking-head Pat Buchanan and before that Ross Perot among others including Minutemen, Ted Hayesian Negroes and assorted other con men, snake oil salesmen and ne'er-do-wells (and before these the Know-Nothings of the 1830's whose 'Mexicans' were Irish-Catholics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know-Nothing_movement ), is a classically (no 'class') reactionary response to globalization (and, in this case globalization would refer to two interelated phenomena: the shifting of capital and production overseas strictly to command cheaper labor; and, the inmigration of workers from poorer countries into relatively better off ones. The latter is as much a harbinger of globalization as the former. Indeed in the European Union there are, in practice, no restrictions upon workers of any member nation to seek work wherever she/he can find the best wage for his/her labor-power: "Citizens of the European Union enjoy the freedom of movement to all 25 member-states. Free movement is a cornerstone of the EU citizenship." This at http://www.helleniccomserve.com/immigrationeumay05.html As example of the scope of this consider that between May 2004 and June 2006, some 600,000 East Europeans registered for work in Britain alone. For this: http://economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=7843391 )
In truth, the international character of modern capitalism is sweeping away the raison d'etre of the nation-state and that is a good thing, not a bad thing. Such feeble-minded responses such as national capitalism do noithing but fog up the battlefield and stand in the way of the international solidarity of all workers in a struggle that must be not be for a larger slice (or at least a larger slice than "Them Illegals") but must be for the whole pie and the right to bake larger and larger pies. And in this last is the rub. Larger and larger pies would mean higher and higher standards of living. Obviously, save for those at the top, this has not been the case, in the US for some 30 odd years. You must ask yourself why? "Real wages in the US rose during every decade from 1830 to 1970. Then this central feature of US capitalism stopped as the figures below show: Source: Labor Research Associates of New York based on data from the US Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics; wages expressed in constant 1982 dollars. " http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/wolff120606.html 1964 $302.52 1974 314.94 1984 279.22 1994 259.97 2004 277.57 There is a problem with value-production which is the driving force of capitalism. Under such an economic system, production is undertaken not to produce a good or service but to produce a profit. The fits and ties of recurring and persistent recessions and depressions tells us, in no uncertain manner, that that something is rotten in Denmark and now all the world is a stage. National capitalism has nothing to offer save the nee-racist salve that "We are better than them" if only because we were born (white) American. For socialists to resort to this line of thinking is a sad reflection upon our movement and the time it takes to study economics. Best, Imani ----- Original Message ----- From: jubilee shine To: Norma J F Harrison ; bilal ali ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: RE: arrest and prosecute the employers!!!! Re: [DopeXResistance-L.A.] Stop the Migra Raids Summit what business is it of yrs where a worker comes from? yr prohibition of undocumented employment is the same backward anti-worker, anti -immigrant & -oppressed nation garbage. hidden in yr populist chauvanism is the national i.d. card & fascism. you do not advocate workers' rights but nationalist workers' rights -- national socialism -- nazism. take me off yr list. unions for all workers! arrest wolfowitz' IMF & crew! unite the many, defeat the few! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: arrest and prosecute the employers!!!! Re: [DopeXResistance-L.A.] Stop the Migra Raids Summit Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:41:56 -0700 Please advocate for some workable regulations that argue for protection of workers wherever we all are. Argue for prosecution of people who hire people without papers here in the U.S., a law, here. Employers, especially LARGE employers get away with all the crimes of use of undocumented people, and make huge profits thereby. At this time they are altogether safe from prosecution; their employer records are inaccessible by our governmental - paid for by us - entities including the IRS. This is in line with the U.S.'s policy of crushing other countries and utilizing the workers who escape into the U.S. as a recourse for survival. Arrest and prosecution of these scofflaws would go some distance toward announcing to Mexico, India, et al that those many countries' policies of submitting to U.S. controls - treaties, IMF SAPs - so called structural adjustment programs - is no longer the way to put the debt burden onto the backs of the hugely increasing number of people impoverished by their nations' policies. Instead of persecuting the immigrants get the U.S. to follow its law that forbids hiring of undocumented people. Demand the U.S. let it be known that nations are responsible for the people who live in their borders; that those are not throw-away people who can come and slave here in the U.S. to the enormous profit of the employers here in the U.S. Demand workers' rights for all workers. This could reduce the fury and confusion that exists for the working class here in the U.S., in particular on the part of Black people who, while trying to do the nice thing, nevertheless find they are working against their own interests. As the lowest paid, most unemployed group in the U.S., furthering import of even lower paid more abused workers does nothing to uphold protection of workers who've lived here historically for 200 years, or for all workers who've lived here and are constantly more abused by U.S.'s anti-worker laws. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: jubilee shine To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; bilal ali ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ian ; Michael Novick ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; OtterOne Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: [DopeXResistance-L.A.] Stop the Migra Raids Summit Stop the Migra Raids Summit Saturday, July 28, 2007 10am - 2pm Salon Acapulco, 3rd Floor 1929 S. Los Angeles St., Los Angeles, CA 90011 Please email or call us to endorse this summit: (626)617-0401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The defeat of immigration reform legislation is a strategic move that will, through the predictable increase of ICE raids, continue to legitimate state terrorism against migrant and immigrant families. We will discuss strategy, objectives, and a short/mid/long term plan for our peoples movement. We will strategize, organize, and mobilize in our local communities! Summit Goals: To Mass Publicize the Raids Hotline Number (562.236.3939) Establish Regional Emergency Response Teams Human Rights Training Modules Distribute organizing resources for each region Frente Contra Las Redadas invites all organizations committed to fighting against ICE raids in our communities : REPORTE REDADAS: (562) 236-3939 unite the many, defeat the few! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all in one place! Find it! 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