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Subject: [NYTr] Huckabee's Wacky Religious Ideas

Shakespeare's Sister via Alternet - Dec 12, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/70427/

Huckabee's Religious Beliefs Are Just as Wacky as Romney's,
So Why Should We Care?

By Melissa McEwan, Shakesville

I truly cannot begin to express how profoundly exhausted I am with
election stories about religion, in no small part because they are
getting sillier and sillier--and this is surely the silliest yet:

"Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, an ordained
Southern Baptist minister, asks in an upcoming article, 'Don't Mormons
believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?'"

I mean, this is to what our national political dialogue has been
reduced by these idiots. Rather than teasing out the flaws in Romney's
policy platform, Huckabee instead impugns his character merely by
accusing him of believing Jesus and Satan are brothers, because
everyone knows that's way wackier than believing that Jesus is God's
son but Satan is just a fallen angel!

Are you fucking kidding me?

It's bad enough that presidential candidates are debating the finer
points of theology in the first place, but that the debate is supposed
to prove who would make a better President of the United States is
manifestly preposterous. We have lost the plot, people.

Listen, I don't give a shit if a politician is a Christian, a Jew, a
Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Pagan, a Zoroastrian, a Scientologist,
a Pastafarian, or a worshipper of the Great Pumpernickel Loaf from the
Eighth Dimension of the Planet Zorgon. All I ask from the people who
want my vote is that they not attempt to legislate their personal
spiritual beliefs or pen asinine resolutions proclaiming their belief
system to be Teh Greatest in Teh Universe!!11!!!--or even "one of the
great religions of the world," because you'll never convince me in a
million years that a government overtly sanctioning such feelings of
supremacy has nothing to do with despicable shit like "Happy Hanukkah"
eliciting a beating.

I'm an atheist; I'm married to an atheist; I've got friends who are
atheists; atheists contribute to this blog; I also have family members
who are Christian; I've got friends who are Christian and Jewish and
Muslim and Hindu and Buddhist and Pagan; religious people contribute
to this blog--and the one thing on which all of us agree is that
religion doesn't belong in politics, because all of us are smart
enough to have long ago discerned the basic freakin' concept that
religion, no less one very precise manifestation of one specific
religion, is not the singular genesis of morality. No one's got the
market cornered on morals.

What someone believes has only the capacity to convey about them that
they believe that thing. Saying "I'm a Christian" or "I'm agnostic" or
"I'm a Sikh" says nothing about a person's intrinsic character,
despite what plenty of people who wear each of those labels (and
others) would have us believe. Whether one believes that Jesus and
Satan were respectively God's son and a fallen angel, brothers, gay
lovers, or characters in a fairy tale shouldn't serve as a substitute
for the collective quality of a person established by actions; what
one believes does not equal who one is.

So it doesn't really matter a fig to me whether Romney believes Jesus
and Satan are brothers; I still know he's a disingenuous,
opportunistic, integrity-challenged dodo. That Huckabee is trying to
make it an issue only confirms that he is a brainless,
ethically-impaired gobshite, hiding behind his religion because he's
got nothing else to offer.

Their respective religious beliefs didn't figure at all in those
calculations.

Melissa McEwan writes and edits the blog Shakespeare's Sister.
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/

***

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/opinion/12dowd.html?th&emc=th

The Dream Is Dead

By MAUREEN DOWD
NY Times Op-Ed: December 12, 2007

WASHINGTON

The man crowned by Tommy Franks as "the dumbest [expletive] guy on the
planet" just made the dumbest [expletive] speech on the planet.

Doug Feith, the former Rummy gofer who drove the neocon plan to get us into
Iraq, and then dawdled without a plan as Iraq crashed into chaos, was the
headliner at a reunion meeting of the wooly-headed hawks Monday night at the
American Enterprise Institute.

The room was packed as the former No. 3 at the Pentagon, previewing his
upcoming book, "War and Decision," conceded that the case could be made that
"mistakes were made." His former boss, Paul Wolfowitz, and the former
Pentagon adviser Richard Perle sat supportively in the front row.

But he wasn't self-flagellating. He was simply trying to put an egghead
gloss on his Humpty Dumpty mishegoss.

"At the end of the day, here we are, and as of now there's a reasonable
chance that the country is going to remain united," he said. Not quite the
original boast of democracy cascading through the Middle East.

Feith also inanely noted that his personal view was that his
de-Baathification policy - which created a huge, angry pool of unemployed
men that fueled the insurgency - "was not basically a big error. It's been
criticized very severely. I think there actually was a lot of good thought
that went into the de-Baathification policy." It just spiralled out of hand,
he said. Mistakes were made.

He thinks everything would have been fine if America had not lingered so
long in Iraq. If only Paul Bremer and the generals had just turned Iraq over
to the slippery con man Feith wanted to put in charge, Ahmad Chalabi.

Asked about getting tough with Iran and Syria, Feith offered this
incandescent insight: "As we all know, the president said he's The Decider.
That actually is quite a profound point. The president is The Decider and
the main thing he decides about is risk."

He noted that in battles through American history, "the military fights
better over time." This from a guy who sent our military into Iraq without
the right armor, the right force numbers or the right counterinsurgency
training.

"A strategic alliance of the ousted Baathists and foreign jihadists was
something that our intelligence community did not anticipate," he said,
continuing to spread the blame.

But the intelligence community didn't miss it. The neocons tried to scrub
out that sort of analysis, knowing it would make the war harder to sell.

Classified reports prepared for President Bush in January 2003 by the
National Intelligence Council warned that rogue elements of Saddam's
government could hook up with existing terrorist groups to wage guerrilla
warfare.

In "Fiasco," Tom Ricks wrote that Feith's Pentagon office was dubbed the
"black hole" of policy by generals watching him drop the ball.

"People working for Feith complained that he would spend hours tweaking
their memos, carefully mulling minor points of grammar," Ricks wrote. "A
Joint Staff officer recalled angrily that at one point troops sat on a
runway for hours, waiting to leave the United States on a mission, while he
quibbled about commas in the deployment order."

Jay Garner, America's first viceroy in Iraq, deemed him "incredibly
dangerous" and said his "electrons aren't connected."

Feith's disdain for diplomacy and his credo that weakness invites aggression
were shaped, Ricks reported, by personal history: "Like Wolfowitz, Feith
came from a family devastated by the Holocaust. His father lost both
parents, three brothers, and four sisters to the Nazis."

Feith told Jeffrey Goldberg in The New Yorker that "My family got wiped out
by Hitler, and ... all this stuff about working things out - well, talking
to Hitler to resolve the problem didn't make any sense to me. The kind of
people who put bumper stickers on their car that declare that 'War is not
the answer,' are they making a serious comment? What's the answer to Pearl
Harbor? What's the answer to the Holocaust?"

What's the answer to bin Laden? According to Feith, it was an attack on an
unrelated dictator. He oversaw the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group,
whose mission was to amp up links between Saddam and Al Qaeda.

It defies reason, but there are still some who think the chuckleheads who
orchestrated the Iraq misadventure have wisdom to impart.

The Pentagon neocons dumped Condi Rice out of the loop. Yet, according to
Newsweek's Mike Isikoff, Condi has now offered Wolfie a job. It wasn't
enough that he trashed Iraq and the World Bank. (He's still larking around
town with Shaha, the sweetheart he gave the sweetheart deal to.)

Condi wants Wolfie to advise her on nuclear proliferation and W.M.D. as part
of a State Department panel that has access to highly classified
intelligence.

Once you've helped distort W.M.D. intelligence to trick the country into
war, shouldn't you be banned for life from ever having another top-level
government post concerning W.M.D.?





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