To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Elizabeth B. " <***> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:47:09 -0000 Subject: [counter-recruitment] Please don't join Grouply
Please READ this and if you have already joined, please notify the moderators of all groups you belong to. love, Eliz * Beware of Grouply * Beware of Grouply Live Journal IRC <http://lrc.livejournal.com/890654.html> Quoting this post: "There's a "service" called Grouply, that has members sign up - and *give them their yahoo ID and password", and then goes to YahooGroups and changes all of their group memberships to go to Grouply. Bad enough - right? It *also* keeps all the messages from that group in its archives, even if the message has been deleted from Yahoo's archives. It claims it does not start "harvesting" messages posted before the first grouply member from that list joins - but in its description it talks about old archives. It also, at this time, can apparently allow pending members to view group messages - and other lovely things. I know nobody here is likely to use this "service", and as far as I can tell they are only targeting Yahoo - but if you're on a group that is supposedlly private, and anyone on the list is using grouply - the messages are no longer truly private." ------------------------------------------- Indeed a new Grouply forum has been created that Grouply intends to monitor so as to learn more about discussion group anger and strong disagreement with Grouply methods, but as the post above states, much can be learned from all sides of this issue from a tremendous volume of posts on this topic already sent to the EmailList-Managers discussion group on Yahoo Groups. EmailList-Managers <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EmailList-Managers/> Quoting briefly one poster on the EmailList Managers list in this regard: "No kidding! Not to mention a backlog of emails, eh? When I went to bed last night around midnight, my mailbox was clean for EL-M and this morning at 6:30, there were almost 100 waiting for me to read." It should be noted that opinions are developing that the activities of Grouply in regard to Yahoo Groups includes some activities that are very likely to be illegal in areas like privacy and copyright and more, so for the present time it is recommended that this service be avoided. Some Yahoo Groups list owners are actually deleting members who it is determined have a membership with Grouply. This is a particularly important area of concern for legal, medical, library and other fields where discussion group archives may require privacy for ethical and legal reasons such as the HIPAA Law. Apparently, Grouply can obtain the archives of a group, once a Yahoo group member has joined Grouply. This may also be a grotesque example of the potential intrusive nature of social networking groups as they change further the privacy expectations of the public and replace them with a starving appetite for private information, illustrated by a new program on Fox that involves the use of lie detectors. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University - - - At 01:19 AM 10/20/2008, John [Activist List] wrote: I receives an 'invitation' to join Grouply in the name of someone I know on the groups. I did not know it was sent my a robot. When I went to Grouply, it seemed a convienent way to organize my groups. I joined. When it asked me which of my groups I wanted to include, I checked off a few to see how it went. Grouply THEN sent 'INVITES' to every one of the groups I selected IN MY NAME. I promptly quit, hopefully not too late. If this group received one of these 'invitations', forgive my ignorance. I am sincerely sorry. WATCH OUT FOR THE GROUPLY INVITATIONS! - - - At 03:05 PM 11/14/2008, Ralph wrote: We share the laamn group. I want to add you as a friend in Grouply so you can see my profile with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite group messages. Here is the link: http://www.grouply.com/register.php?r=1597097&vt=20869322 . Ralph Stewart ========================== Block Grouply Invites | Mark as SPAM Click here to block all emails from Grouply, 495 Seaport Court, Suite 103, Redwood City, CA 94063. 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