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* <http://machetera.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/carter04ak.jpg>Interview
with former U.S. President, Jimmy Carter, by Arleen Rodríguez Derivet, Cuban
Television journalist **-
español<http://www.cubadebate.cu/noticias/2011/03/30/entrevista-con-james-carter-realizada-por-arleen-rodriguez-fotos-y-video/>
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*Translation: Machetera*

*Arleen Rodríguez*: Hello!  A greeting to all of those who are watching
Cuban Television right now.   I welcome all of you, along with the former
President of the United States, James Carter, who just moments before
leaving to return to his country has graciously agreed to give us an
interview, and an exclusive statement for our television broadcast.

Welcome.  Thank you for accepting our invitation.

*Jimmy Carter:* It’s a great pleasure to return to Cuba, to Havana.

*Rodríguez:* It’s a great pleasure to have you here as well.  You told me
that you’d like to say something to the Cuban people before our interview.

*Carter:* Yes.

*Rodríguez:* The camera is yours.

*Carter:* To the people of Cuba I would like to say that I am very grateful
for the chance to return to your wonderful country once again.  My wife and
I enjoy being here with the Cuban people, to meet with the government
leaders, to meet with some of those Cuban citizens who disagree with the
government.  We met with all of them.  We are very excited about the
prospects for the upcoming Congress that will begin next month.  We also had
a chance to meet with the parents of the so-called Cuban Five, with two of
the mothers and also with the wives.

My hope is that in the future we will see normalization of relations between
Cuba and the United States.  I would like to see at the time all the
restraints on travel from the United States to Cuba and Cuba to the United
States lifted, and also have freedoms in both our countries, freedom of
assembly, freedom of speech, freedom to travel as you wish, these are very
important for the entire world and for the people of Cuba.

We had meetings with the foreign minister, with the President of the
National Assembly, with President Castro, with the former President, Fidel
Castro, an old friend of mine, to learn all we can about the economic
changes in Cuba.

This morning I was also able to meet with Mr. Gross, who has been sentenced
to a long term in prison in Cuba, and we believe he is innocent of any
crime.  I hope in the future we’ll see his freedom along with the freedom of
the so-called Cuban Five who have now spent 12 years in prison in the United
States.

In the future I hope that we can see unimpeded trade and commerce as well as
travel back and forth between our two countries and I’d like to see the
economic embargo lifted completely…it doesn’t just affect the government but
it hurts the people.  My views on the Cuban American relationship are that
it needs to change.

When I became president I immediately lifted the travel restraints between
both my country and Cuba and I have worked very closely with your former
President Fidel Castro to establish diplomatic exchange through Interests
Sections.  Now the United States and Cuba have about 300 people employed in
the Interests Sections, both in the United States as well as in Cuba, and
there are Cubans who work in the Interests Section in Cuba and vice-versa,
and I think that this can contribute to normal diplomatic relations between
the two countries.

This has been a good opportunity that I’ve been given by Cuban TV to address
you and say how marvelous your country is.

*Rodríguez*: Thanks.

I’d like to take advantage of this opportunity to ask you a few questions.

First of all, I’d like to congratulate you for the respect and sympathy that
you’ve generated as the only U.S. President in 50 years to do something to
normalize relations.  You recalled some of the important steps.  Also for
the fact that you have come to Cuba twice already, and for doing so with
your hand extended and with respect.  The Cuban people, who have a lot of
pride and dignity, receive such visitors sympathetically.

I believe that, getting down to the substance of this interview, you’ve
relieved me of having to do an introduction, by expressing once again your
desire and willingness for the blockade against Cuba to be lifted.  It’s
known that there’s a majority consensus in U.S. society on this, even among
the Cuban community in the United States, and that, furthermore, the
international community has overwhelmingly demanded this for the last twenty
years, the same way that its efforts are supported by a vast majority in
Cuba and the United States.

As you yourself acknowledge, the blockade remains in place, and the Cuban
people know, furthermore, that it remains in place as stiffly as ever,
sometimes even more rigorous than before.

I ask: What prospects do you see for relations between Cuba and the United
States and for this blockade, that the whole world opposes?

*Carter:* As you know, the majority of Cubans want to have normal relations
with the United States, and the overwhelming majority of North Americans
also want to have normal relationships with Cuba.  Unfortunately there are a
few radical leaders in my country, some in prominent positions in Congress,
mostly Cuban Americans, who insist on keeping the relationship between our
two countries separate, these representatives of the old Cuban American
community, whose main goal was to overthrow the Castro regime; even among
the Cuban Americans now in my country they are a small minority now, but
they’re very powerful, in our political circles.  I believe that in the last
few years, I’ve seen public opinion polls even inside Miami … testifying
that the younger members of that community want to move the economic
blockade against Cuba and want to have normal opportunities to travel in
both directions: from the United States to Cuba and also from Cuba to the
United States. This is a change.  In my opinion, it’s a change that is going
to continue into the future and I hope that my small voice, and the opinion
of many American, can make this a reality.

*Rodríguez:* Mr. Carter, I was very moved as I listened to you in the press
conference, and here in your statement, when I heard you also ask for,
demand, freedom for the Five Cuban Heroes imprisoned in the States, who Cuba
considers heroes, because they faced terrorist groups and were able to
prevent the list of 2,099 wounded and 3,478 dead from terrorist attacks on
our country from growing any larger.

I don’t know how aware you are of how deeply the Cuban people feel about the
demand that the Five be released.  However, I didn’t hear you say they
should be pardoned.

You said that according to U.S. law you expected that they would be freed.
They have appealed to the Supreme Court, which refused to hear their case,
despite the fact that more than 10 Nobel laureates and hundreds of political
personalities and intellectuals around the world had demanded it.  In other
words, all the legal steps have been exhausted.

The process has been extremely arbitrary, as you said, judges have
acknowledged this, and two of them have been subjected to the additional
punishment of being denied regular visits from their wives, as well as
having the visits from their family members made very difficult.

To arrive at this point with the Supreme Court and not allow even for the
review of such a complex case is what made these Nobel prizewinners and
political personalities demand that Obama grant a pardon.

You were the President of the United States.  You exercised the right to
pardon, as a humanitarian gesture, that I tell you – as a Cuban – the Cuban
people would deeply appreciate a pardon.  Are you inclined to add your name
to the other Nobel prizewinners who are asking Obama to pardon the Five?

*Carter:* As you know, I’m not only a former president, but I’m also a Nobel
laureate.

*Rodríguez:* That’s why.

*Carter:* Well, in my private talks to President Bush and also with
President Obama, I have urged the release of these prisoners.

I recognize the restraints within the American judicial system, and my hope
is that the president might grant a pardon, but you have to realize that
this is a decision that could only be made by the president himself, it
would be presumptuous of me to try to tell another president what to do; but
the presidents, now and before this, have known that my own opinion is that
the original trial of the Cuban Five was very doubtful, it violated
standards, and also some of the restraints on their visitation were extreme.

Now I know that all of the people have been able to visit them in jail, and
it is my wish in the future that before a pardon might be granted is that
there could be more access by these families to these prisoners .

I have been informed by officials, for instance, that the shooting down of
the small plane over Havana, that caused the death of two pilots, was done
after the President of the United States told Cuban leaders that no more
flights would take place.  And I was informed by Cuban officials that they
communicated to the President of the United States, very clearly, that they
would not permit a plane to fly over their capital city…dropping
leaflets…but that they would protect the sovereignty of Cuba.  So even those
more serious, allegations, in my opinion are very doubtful, about their need
or cause of the extensive sentences that have been granted to one of the
prisoners; but in every way, in my private conversations with Obama when I
return to the United States, in my public statements like today, which I
have made before other American leaders, I’ve called for freeing the Cuban
Five; one of the reasons is, that guilty or not, is that they’ve served a
long prison sentence, more than 12 years, they’ve been punished adequately,
even if they are guilty.

*Rodríguez:* Recently a person very closely connected to the case, who you
knew very well, Leonard Weinglass, passed away.  I know that you know he was
a man with a love for justice, who fought for justice, and his last words,
his last work, even, on his deathbed, was to prove that the Five had nothing
to do with the downing of the planes.

*Carter:* Yes, I know.

*Rodríguez:* To go further into the case would make this conversation much
longer, but what the Cuban people know, what can be proven, what is known,
even by U.S. authorities, through the reports that Cuba sent, is that the
only thing these young people were doing was looking for information to
prevent terrorist actions.

I am confident that you will be able to convey the insistence on a pardon,
as a humanitarian gesture.  These men have suffered a lot, and have lost
family members without being able to be at their side; finally, I don’t
insist, I thank you for your interest and your statements in the name of the
Cuban people.

Mr. Carter, you also said this morning at the press conference that you had
a friendly meeting with Comandante Fidel Castro, who has expressed in his
Reflections a great deal of anguish about the risks faced by the human
species, about the huge nuclear arsenals that keep on growing and that are
capable of destroying the world several times over, and also about the
nefarious consequences that climate change might have for the human
species.  These are subjects in which I believe you have broad agreement.

As a nuclear physicist, you know what nuclear weapons mean for the human
species, when you were President, you worked hard to educate your people
against consumer culture, promoted rational policies, defended the
environment, even though it made you unpopular among certain sectors.

Well, quickly, I’d like to know if you still think there is a chance to do
something to save humankind.

*Carter:* Well, when I was president, we negotiated with the Soviet Union to
reduce the level of nuclear weapons, through the so-called SALT II Treaty,
and since then I’ve been a strong advocate of reducing productions in
nuclear arsenals on both sides.  Also I believe very strongly that there is
a real threat to the wellbeing of all human beings through global warming,
and as you probably know, President Obama and his predecessor, President
Bush, attempted to work with other nuclear powers on reducing arsenals, and
that they have been monitoring very closely the agreements that have been
signed by these governments.

I think the United States has not been adequately strong in its potential
leadership in addressing the global warming issue.  Cuban officials, since
I’ve been here, have pointed out me that the old city in Havana is in danger
of destruction… I have been to Bolivia to meet with Evo Morales, and maybe
Bolivia will be the first country that will have major damage to its
economy, because the glaciers in the mountains of Bolivia are melting…their
source of drinking water.  So I’m hoping that in the future, this issue, and
the global warming issue, can be addressed by my country and all nations,
and I know that Fidel Castro is addressing this now, at least in his
Reflections.  I talked to him about inviting … more definitively about his
actions at present, as related to the United States … what goes on in
current affairs, and he wants to use his voice as a senior statesman for the
wellbeing of all humankind.  We’ve had good conversations, we basically
agree on many things, and above all, we also talked about global warming,
and I believe that there might be a possibility between our two countries.
Now I’m afraid I have to leave, to get on my airplane, I don’t have an Air
Force One any more.

*Rodríguez:* I’m very grateful for your time.  Thank you.  Every time you
come to Cuba, hope is awakened, although the blockade continues to make
relations so difficult.

*Carter:* Espero que podemos volver otra vez, muchas veces.  En la
oportunidad traer toda mi familia.  Hay muchos de nuestra familia.  Tenemos
treinta y seis miembros… [*I hope that we can return again, many times.  I'd
like to bring all my family.  There are a lot of us.  We have thirty-six
members...]* grandchildren, great grandchildren, spouses, children, we’d
like to have all of us come to Cuba.

Thank you very much.

*Rodríguez:* Thank you, Mr. Carter, very much.

*Machetera is a member of Tlaxcala, the international network of translators
for linguistic diversity: http://www.tlaxcala-int.org*
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