Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:13:41 -0400
Subject: Mexican Magazine "Contralinea" interviews Mumia's Daughter Goldii
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>


Thank you Carolina for making this interview happen!!!


This interview with Philadelphia hip hop artist 
and Mumia Abu-Jamal’s daughter, Goldii, was done 
by Rogelio Velázquez and excerpted in his article 
“101 Countries Retain the Death Penalty” 
published in the Mexican magazine Contralínea on 
August 21, 2011. 
http://contralinea.info/archivorevista/index.php/2011/08/24/101-paises-avalan-pena-de-muerte/

Contralínea: Goldii, I want to thank you for 
agreeing to do this important interview. At 
Contralínea magazine we consider it important to 
publish these kinds of legal cases in order to 
build a world without the death penalty. For this 
reason, we would like to ask you to describe a 
day of Mumia’s confinement and also to talk about 
your experience of visiting him in prison.

Goldii: First and foremost I want to thank you 
for reaching out to me. My father will be proud 
that you are doing this work to educate people on 
abolishing the death penalty.

Contralínea: We think this work could be helpful 
not only for Mumia, but also for all the 
prisoners who spend their lives in these places. 
First of all, I want to know if you have visited 
your dad in prison and how often have you done it?

  Goldii: Yes I have visited him in prison. He’s 
been on death row since I was 2 ½ years old, so I 
can’t even count how may times I’ve been there to 
see him. I’m planning to visit him again very 
soon and I’ll be taking my two daughters… his 
granddaughters. He’ll be meeting the baby for the 
first time, so we are really looking forward to this trip.

Contralínea: Could you describe the prison where Mumia is?

Goldii: The prison is called SCI Green, and it is 
a super maximum-security prison. On the outside 
it has the appearance of a new college campus or 
something closely related, then when you get 
closer you see barbed wire and fences everywhere. 
There are several buildings with control towers 
about them for surveillance. The place gives me a 
chilling type of feeling. Everything feels wrong, 
and it makes me want to take my dad and go home.

Contralínea: What does his cell look like?

Goldii: Since visitors are not permitted beyond 
the visiting area, I’m not sure what his cell 
looks like. But the visitation rooms are very 
small, and a wall with a large plexiglass window 
divides us. There are screens at the bottom so we 
can communicate. But the acoustics in the room 
are bad because the sound bounces off the walls 
in the tiny room, only making it difficult for us to hear one another.

Contralínea: Are the walls painted?

Goldii: The walls are all white in the visiting 
room… then again, I might be wrong, but even if 
the place were colored like a rainbow, I probably 
wouldn’t notice because the atmosphere is so cold 
and unwelcoming there. It seemed all white and bland to me.

Contralínea: Is there furniture inside?

Goldii: There are only chairs in the visiting 
area. He has a small bunk with a toilet and sink in his cell.

Contralínea: What is the revision process for 
getting in? (Are you searched? Can you take anything in with you?)

Goldii: When we go in we have to show ID even the 
kids need a picture ID. Then we get a key to lock 
up all of our personal belongings. After that, we 
walk through a metal detector, removing all 
jewelry, belts, underwire bras… everything with 
metal on it. Then we are called individually to a 
room where we are checked by a machine that 
detects drug paraphernalia or residue on the 
clothing or skin. They even tested my daughter, 
and she was about 6 years old at the time. The 
next thing we did was walk through another set of 
metal detectors, at which point, we were escorted 
to a check point where we had to brandish our ID 
again to be permitted to enter the visiting area. 
In the visiting area we were seated in a room 
where my dad came to meet us, on the other side, 
but sometimes he made it there before we did.

Contralínea: Do your family and friends visit him? How often?

Goldii: Yes my family visits as often as we can.

Contralínea: Tell me about your trip from your 
house to the prison. How do you feel on the road?

Goldii: The trip takes about 5-6 hours and it’s a 
very desolate road full of mountainous terrain. 
It seems like no one lives there.

Contralínea: What do you think about?

Goldii: When I’m traveling to the prison so many 
things go through my mind, but I always seem to 
arrive at this one thought where I’m imagining my 
father’s first ride to SCI Green, and all the 
things he was thinking about and all the feelings 
he had. I imagine him feeling afraid, and 
powerless, not being able to get away and come 
back home to us. It’s a lonely ride, and I 
imagine him feeling incredibly alone. I’m always 
happy and excited to see him, but the ride makes me sad.

Contralínea: Do you feel happy when you see him?

Goldii: When I see my father I have so many 
feelings. Of course I am happy, but I’m also 
frustrated that I cannot embrace him, and that he 
can’t hold and hug my daughters. I also feel hurt 
and angry that he is treated as less than a human 
being, locked away and caged like a beast. It’s a 
very painful experience having to see him being treated that way.

Contralínea: How much time and money do you spend when you visit him?

Goldii: We visit as a group, and split the cost 
of gas between each person riding. The ride is 
between 5-6 hours long, and we are allowed to visit for 5 hours.

Contralínea: What do you talk about with him?

Goldii: We talk about our family. I share funny 
stories about my girls and my nieces and nephews. 
I love to hear his laugh; it’s like a temporary 
escape from the hell he has to live in. We also 
talk about politics, music, what’s going on with 
hip-hop. I tell him about the rallies we have to 
free him and about the massive crowds of people 
of all kinds that come from all over the world in 
support of him.  We talk about everything.

Contralínea: What is he like? I mean, is he 
optimistic despite his condition?  Is he calm, 
friendly, sad, shy, serious, quiet, etc?

Goldii: He is brilliant. Simply put, he is an 
amazing individual that I am blessed to love and 
to know. He stands tall behind that plexiglass 
window with an aura of positive light around him. 
He is welcoming and warm, silly and fun, serious 
and introspective and surprisingly nerdy 
(laughing to myself, this is a personal joke 
between my parents and myself). Death row was 
designed to break the human spirit, but his 
spirit is alive and well. His mind is razor 
sharp, he is impressive to listen to… very intelligent.

Contralínea: What did he used to be like before imprisonment?

Goldii: My memories of him before imprisonment are very limited.

Contralínea: Besides writing, what kind of things does Mumia like to do?

Goldii: He studies and writes music. He wrote my 
mom the most beautiful love song. He is also an amazing artist as well.

Contralínea: What is the hardest experience for 
you during your visits? And for your family?

Goldii: The hardest part of visiting my father is 
leaving him in that place, knowing he doesn’t 
belong there. It’s a shattering experience. Leaving him in that hell hole.

  Contralínea: What do you think about on your way back home?

Goldii: I always wonder what he’s doing and what 
happens to him as soon as we leave. I think about 
our conversation and imagine him smiling.

Contralínea: How is the family life affected when 
a family member is condemned to death?

Goldii: This has been devastating for my family. 
Without being too detailed, let’s just say I could write a book about it.

Contralínea: Do you trust in the U.S. system of 
justice after the 29 years that your dad has been a prisoner?

Goldii: I’d like to think the justice system was 
fair at this day and age, but history has shown 
me otherwise. No I don’t trust the justice system.

Contralínea: Do you think Mumia’s sentence is racist? Why?

Goldii: Yes, I know that his guilty conviction 
was based on race. The judge that sentenced him 
was a racist and was overheard calling my father 
a Nigger. In addition to that, Black and Latino 
men and women are placed in prison and especially 
on death row in largely disproportionate numbers 
as compared to their white counterparts who are 
convicted of similar crimes. He was targeted as a 
danger to society, a black man in the media with 
the potential to awaken the minds of the 
community, the potential to stir up rebellion 
against the oppressor… In the U.S., that’s a 
problem that ‘needs dealin’ with’.

Contralínea: Do you think racism continues to exist in the U.S.?

Goldii: Yes absolutely. Despite the face that the 
U.S. President is a Black man, racism continues 
to exist in America, and it would be foolish to believe that it doesn’t.
Contralínea: Why do you think the death penalty 
continues to be a punishment in the U.S. system?

Goldii: Politics maybe??? The courts are like vampires… blood-thirsty.

Contralínea: The current U.S. President, mister 
Obama, promised a historic political change. Why, 
despite this, is your dad is still in jail?

Goldii: My father is still considered to be a 
dangerous individual… his mind is what they fear, 
there is overwhelming evidence that would 
exonerate him of his conviction. He is an 
innocent man and the commonwealth has always 
known this, but being too black, too smart, and 
too strong… are all more threatening components 
than the characteristics present in any crazed 
murderer in society.  The government will silence 
anyone that possesses the power to open the minds of  “the People”.

Contralínea: Do you think if Mumia were liberated, it would mean justice?

Goldii: Justice delayed… but yes.

Contralínea: Would it be possible to make up for the time he spent in prison?

Goldii: It is impossible to replace time. I can’t 
go back and be 3 years old again, I can’t go back 
and graduate from 5th grade again, so he can be 
there. There were events in life that he missed, 
that will never, can never be replaced. That is incredibly saddening.

Contralínea: Please explain the latest legal information in the case.

Goldii: The courts have agreed with the defense 
team that there were disputable issues with the 
sentencing phase of the trial. That means that 
they are going to review and make a new decision 
as to whether my father will remain on death row, 
or serve a life sentence. The issue of 
guilt/innocence is not a current consideration in 
the courts. His conviction is being upheld. The 
conviction needs to be placed on the table, because he is an innocent man.

Contralínea: Feel free to add anything that you consider relevant.

Goldii: Thanks. We will be keeping up with all the new information on the case.

Contralínea: Greetings from Mexico City.

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