Obama Promised heritage House Health INSURANCE, every time Health Care was put on the table, he took it off the table.
Obama promised the Health Insurance giants they'd never have to go through what happened in 1998, when due to a crashed economy, and refusal to deliver services paid for, 40% of their 'clients' dropped them. They immediately started 'investing' in politics, to get their bottom line back, and that is all this health INSURANCE thing is about, Corporate Welfare, paid for mostly by the bottom 40% who'll never have the money, after paying for INSURANCE, to cover the deductible to see a health practitioner. Since Roberts states this can't go under the Commerce act as it is forcing people to make purchased from Corporations, it has to be a tax now, which is why it says,, that failure to pay, will result in the IRS attaching your bank account for the amount due. Did you have some idea that anything done in this government would be for the benefit of We the People? The last thing I recall we got from this Government was the Freedom of Information Act in 1972m and Nixon was convinced we'd scale the walls and lynch him as his security didn't have enough ammunition to kill all the Liberals. That is the only reason as a Republican, he was considered a leftie, and we have under a score of Representatives in the House and Senate that are to the Left of Nixon. Now we have a police state to protect the Representative Government of the Corporations, so it's no sweat, O'Bomb'em has nothing to worry about. Scott > Obama broke his promise? SAY IT ISN'T SO||||||| > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Greg Dempsey > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:23 PM > To: Greg dempsey > Subject: [Democrats_2012] *? 2 ALL: HOW OBAMA BROKE HIS PROMISE ON > INDIVIDUAL MANDATES - WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS?* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obamahillaryHCR.banner.reuters.jpg > <http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/obamahillaryHCR.banner > .reuters.jpg> > > > > > > (above): Candidate Obama sang a different tune on individual mandates > during > presidential > > > debates against Hillary Clinton in 2008. (Reuters) > > > > > > ==== > > > > > > Hi Team! > > > *? 2 ALL: > > > HOW OBAMA BROKE HIS PROMISE ON INDIVIDUAL MANDATES - > > > gty income tax forms 1040 ll 111227 wblog White House Sticks to > Individual > Mandate as Penalty, Not Tax > <http://abcnews.go.com/images/Business/gty_income_tax_forms_1040_ll_111227_w > blog.jpg> > > Digital Vision/Getty Images > > > Andrew Cline reports: > > > "Had President Obama kept his word to the American people, Thursday's > ground-breaking Supreme Court ruling that upheld the individual mandate > portion of the Affordable Care Act, giving the president a political > victory > of historic significance, never would have happened. What the court upheld > -- a tax disguised as a mandate -- is a beast made up of two specific > policies, both of which Obama at one time opposed. > > > "Let's go back to 2007, when then-Senator Barack Obama had been a > presidential candidate for only about six weeks. In March, Obama spoke at > a > Service Employees International Union health-care forum in Las Vegas. A > 23-year-old woman asked for details of his health-care plan. He did not > have > any. No details, no plan. But, he said, he had a principle: 'Number one, > we're going to have to make sure that everybody is in.' > > > "Two months later he released his plan. There was no individual mandate, > as > in John Edwards' plan, and Obama focused primarily on price, not coverage. > By design, he had not included everyone, as he said in Las Vegas he would. > That did not stop him from claiming that he included everyone, but the > claim > was debunked by Politifact, Factcheck.org, and others, including his > rivals > for the Democratic presidential nomination. > > > "That September, Hillary Clinton announced a plan that did put 'everybody > in.' As the Associated Press reported in its lede, 'Sen. Hillary Rodham > Clinton's sweeping health-care proposal, which she plans to unveil today, > would require every American to carry health insurance and offer federal > subsidies to help reduce the cost of coverage.' It was Clinton and Edwards > against Obama on the propriety of the state forcing people to buy health > insurance. > > > "In the Jan. 21, 2008, presidential primary debate in South Carolina, > Edwards criticized Obama's plan for its lack of a mandate. Obama > responded, > 'A mandate means that in some fashion, everybody will be forced to buy > health insurance." Instead of going that route, his plan, he said, > "emphasizes lowering costs.' > > > "Obama held that position throughout the campaign. Elect Hillary, he said, > and the government will compel you to buy health insurance. Elect me, and > I'll give you lower costs and let you keep your freedom." (continued > below) > > > > http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrA-J6eP2Pg14WBUiuxhULQDS_Tu-_TY2Bu > Vxjk1Rc2oi_2R5q > > > How Obama broke his promise on individual mandates - what are your > comments? > > > Greg Dempsey > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/ > Voice of the People > > > ===== > > > How Obama Broke His Promise on Individual Mandates > > > By Andrew Cline > > The Atlantic > > Jun 29 2012, 12:36 PM ET > <http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/06/how-obama-broke-his-pro > mise-on-individual-mandates/259183/#disqus_thread> 6 > > Was it a change of heart or a political calculation that led him to > disavow > the staunch opposition he voiced to requiring insurance purchases in 2008? > > > > One Obama TV ad drove the point home: "Hillary Clinton's attacking, but > what's she not telling you about her health care plan? It forces everyone > to > buy insurance, even if you can't afford it, and you pay a penalty if you > don't." > > The American people voted for a candidate who strongly opposed an > individual > mandate, but got a president who strongly favored one. > > Obama's strong objection to the government forcing people to buy insurance > in order to get to universal coverage vanished six months into his > presidency. In July of 2009, > <http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5162895n> he came out in favor of > a > mandate, claiming that he had changed his mind. > > Either Obama was suddenly persuaded that such a sweeping use of government > power was necessary, or he had believed it all along and only took the > other > side because it would position him better politically. Either way, the > American people voted for a candidate who strongly opposed an individual > mandate, but got a president who strongly favored one and, it turned out, > would make enacting health-coverage reforms that included a mandate his > top > legislative goal. > > Had Obama maintained his stated opposition to a mandate, we would not have > one today. But thanks to his post-election reversal from strong opponent > of > mandates to a passionate advocate of them, a policy the American people do > not support now has been imposed upon them. Not incidentally, the same > scenario played out in the Supreme Court, resulting in the mandate being > upheld. > > During debate on the Affordable Care Act, Republicans tried to call the > mandate's penalty provision a tax. The bill stated (and the law now > states) > that those who do not buy health insurance must pay a "penalty" to the > IRS. > When Republicans labeled it a tax, Obama strongly objected. > > In > <http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/09/obama-mandate-is-not-a-tax/> > a > famous 2009 interview with George Stephanopoulos, Obama said: "For us to > say > that you've got to take a responsibility to get health insurance, is > absolutely not a tax increase. What's it's saying is that we're not going > to > have other people carrying your burdens for you." > > A > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/09/29/word-white-house-common-ground-he > alth-insurance-reform-real-health-care-tax> White House memo of talking > points on the act stated with perfect clarity, "what President Obama is > proposing is not a tax, but a requirement to comply with the law." That > memo > is still on the White House website. > > But after the law was challenged in court, the administration shifted > arguments. Suddenly, the mandate was a tax. The administration argued both > that it was a mandate and that it was a tax, hoping that if the courts > rejected one argument they would uphold the other. It was a strategy that > exposed the administration as once again switching positions entirely > after > the voting was done. > > And it worked. On Thursday the Supreme Court struck down the argument > under > which the mandate passed Congress, and upheld the argument made > exclusively > in court after the voting. Though the people did not want a mandate, did > not > vote for a mandate, and have a Constitution that the high court ruled > forbids a health-care mandate -- but not a new health-care tax -- many > will > now have to buy a product they don't want or pay a penalty to the Internal > Revenue Service. Democrats are hailing the ruling as a victory for the > president. 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