Siuhin,

Thanks again for articles like this.

I'm aghast at the number of Lefties who have pushed so hard to make people
think Assad used Chemical weapons, before all the details can be gathered.

I seriously thought it would only be the US Secretary of State, Obama and
Britain who wanted this settled before a UN investigation can be
completed, as China and Russian will veto any attacks before then, so they
need to get in and get the dirty deeds done before any.

It's incredible how much of this is similar to the US run ups for Libya,
Iraq and Afghanistan, and how much personally attacks come out of some
lefties when I point these things out.

Why the rush to enable the US to go kill people in Syria, and then
complain about the US after legitimizing an attack, before the UN can
finish an investigation?

Scott


>
>
> In Rush to Strike Syria, U.S. Tried to  Derail U.N. Probe
>
>
> Analysis by _Gareth  Porter_
> (http://www.ipsnews.net/author/gareth-porter/)
>
>
> http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/08/in-rush-to-strike-syria-u-s-tried-to-derail-u
> -n-probe/
>
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, Aug 27 2013 (IPS) - After  initially insisting that Syria give
> United Nations investigators unimpeded  access to the site of an alleged
> nerve gas attack, the administration of  President Barack Obama reversed
> its
> position on Sunday and tried unsuccessfully  to get the U.N. to call off
> its
> investigation.
> The administration’s reversal, which came within  hours of the deal
> reached
> between Syria and the U.N., was reported by the  Wall Street Journal
> Monday
> and effectively confirmed by a State  Department spokesperson later that
> day.
> In his press appearance Monday, Secretary of State John Kerry, who
> intervened  with U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon to call off the
> investigation,
> dismissed  the U.N. investigation as coming too late to obtain valid
> evidence
> on the attack  that Syrian opposition sources claimed killed as many 1,300
> people.
> The sudden reversal and overt hostility toward the U.N. investigation,
> which  coincides with indications that the administration is planning a
> major
> military  strike against Syria in the coming days, suggests that the
> administration sees  the U.N. as hindering its plans for an attack.
> Kerry asserted Monday that he had warned Syrian Foreign Minister Moallem
> last  Thursday that Syria had to give the U.N. team immediate access to
> the
> site and  stop the shelling there, which he said was “systematically
> destroying evidence”.  He called the Syria-U.N. deal to allow
> investigators
> unrestricted access “too  late to be credible”.
> After the deal was announced on Sunday, however, Kerry pushed Ban in a
> phone  call to call off the investigation completely.
> The Wall Street Journal reported the pressure on Ban without  mentioning
> Kerry by name. It said unnamed “U.S. officials” had told the
> secretary-general that it was “no longer safe for the inspectors to
> remain in  Syria and
> that their mission was pointless.”
> But Ban, who has generally been regarded as a pliable instrument of U.S.
> policy, refused to withdraw the U.N. team and instead “stood firm on
> principle
> ”,  the Journal reported. He was said to have ordered the U.N.
> inspectors
> to  “continue their work”.
> The Journal said “U.S. officials” also told the secretary-general that
> the United States “didn’t think the inspectors would be able to
> collect
> viable  evidence due to the passage of time and damage from subsequent
> shelling.”
> The State Department spokesperson, Marie Harf, confirmed to reporters that
> Kerry had spoken with Ban over the weekend. She also confirmed the gist of
> the  U.S. position on the investigation. “We believe that it’s been
> too
> long and  there’s been too much destruction of the area for the
> investigation to
>  be  credible,” she said.
> That claim echoed a statement by an unnamed “senior official” to the
> Washington Post Sunday that the evidence had been “significantly
> corrupted” by
> the regime’s shelling of the area.
> “[W]e don’t at this point have confidence that the U.N. can conduct a
> credible inquiry into what happened,” said Harf, “We are concerned
> that the
> Syrian regime will use this as a delay tactic to continue shelling and
> destroying evidence in the area.”
> Harf did not explain, however, how the Syrian agreement to a ceasefire and
> unimpeded access to the area of the alleged chemical weapons attack could
> represent a continuation in “shelling and destroying evidence”.
> Despite the U.S. effort to portray the Syrian government policy as one of
> “
> delay”, the formal request from the United Nations for access to the
> site
> did  not go to the Syrian government until Angela Kane, U.N. High
> Representative for  Disarmament Affairs, arrived in Damascus on Saturday,
> as Ban’s
> spokesman, Farhan  Haq, conceded in a briefing in New York Tuesday.
> Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem said in a press conference
> Tuesday
>  that Syria had not been asked by the United Nations for access to the
> East
>  Ghouta area until Kane presented it on Saturday. Syria agreed to provide
> access  and to a ceasefire the following day.
> Haq sharply disagreed with the argument made by Kerry and the State
> Department that it was too late to obtain evidence of the nature of the
> Aug. 21
> incident.
> “Sarin can be detected for up to months after its use,” he said.
> Specialists on chemical weapons also suggested in interviews with IPS that
> the U.N. investigating team, under a highly regarded Swedish specialist
> Ake
>  Sellstom and including several experts borrowed from the Organisation for
> the  Prevention of Chemical Weapons, should be able to either confirm or
> disprove the  charge of an attack with nerve or another chemical weapon
> within
> a matter of  days.
> Ralph Trapp, a consultant on proliferation of chemical and biological
> weapons, said he was “reasonably confident” that the U.N. team could
> clarify
> what had happened.
> “They can definitely answer the question [of] whether there was a
> chemical
> attack, and they can tell which chemical was used,” he said, by
> collecting
> samples from blood, urine and hair of victims. There was even “some
> chance”
>  of  finding chemical residue from ammunition pieces or craters where they
> landed.
> Trapp said it would take “several days” to complete an analysis.
>
> Steve Johnson, who runs a programme in chemical, biological and
> radiological weapons forensics at Cranfield University in the United
> Kingdom,  said
> that by the end of the week the U.N. might be able to answer whether
> “people
> died of a nerve agent.”
> Johnson said the team, if pushed, could produce “some kind of view” on
> that  issue within 24 to 48 hours.
> Dan Kastesza, a 20-year veteran of the U.S. Army Chemical Corps and a
> former  adviser to the White House on chemical and biological weapons
> proliferation,  told IPS the team will not be looking for traces of the
> nerve gas sarin
> in blood  samples but rather chemicals produced when sarin degrades.
> But Kastesza said that once samples arrive at laboratories, specialists
> could  make a determination “in a day or two” about whether a nerve
> agent or
> other  chemical weapons had been used.
> The real reason for the Obama administration’s hostility toward the U.N.
> investigation appears to be the fear that the Syrian government’s
> decision to
>  allow the team access to the area indicates that it knows that U.N.
> investigators will not find evidence of a nerve gas attack.
> The administration’s effort to discredit the investigation recalls the
> George  W. Bush administration’s rejection of the position of U.N.
> inspectors in
> 2002  and 2003 after they found no evidence of any weapons of mass
> destruction in Iraq  and the administration’s refusal to give inspectors
> more time
> to fully rule out  the existence of an active Iraqi WMD programme.
> In both cases, the administration had made up its mind to go to  war and
> wanted no information that could contradict that policy to arise.
>
>
>
>
>
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