Re: [labradoodles] Seizures

Thu, 25 May 2006 09:01:43 -0700

I know that it is heard if not impossible to get a dog to the vet with they are having a seizures.  I deal with them ever day because I have them. and I also have a lab that has them.  But what I'm trying to found out is why she naver called her vet and while it took her four days  to call me and let me know what had happend.  When she called me she was not calling to tell me that he had a seizures it was to tell me that she did not want the puppy any more and that she wanted me to take it back. When I asked her why she did not want him any more is when she told me about the seizure. 
 The lab that had this letter has had three other litter of puppies and they have all be fine. I checked her background to make sure that there were no seizure in any of the stock that she come form.  I did not check the poodle's background  for seizures becasue it it not as commom in then, as it is in the lab.  So I know that my stock is healthy.  The only that I have not done is genetic testing, and I don't that I'm going to do that. My contract sayes that I will take any of my puppies back with in the first 2 moths for any resons after that I will take them back for health resons. If they are moving and take take the dog with them or what ever ohter resones that you can think of I help that owner find a good home for the puppy.'
Georgette
Carol Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let's talk about seizures.  First I'm an RN with a sub specialty in neuro surgery.  Getting a pt to a doc when they are ACTUALLY having a seizure is nearly impossible.  the doc often goes by what you say happens and describing certain events before and after wards.  There are many different types of seizures other than grande mal.  Petite Mal and focal for example.  Dogs can have any of them as well.
 
Now then, an after seizure like state doesn't last too long(post dictal), so rushing a dog to the vet afterwards would really prove nothing, except for what you tell the vet.  My lab had seizures for years(grande mals') I had to keep her on phenobarbital and it helped tons.  The trick is to get then managed.  One can keep a log of the frequency and report that and the type to the vet so he can get a better handle on what is truly happening.
 
Neurological problems in humans can often be miss diagnosed by doc's who either do not LISTEN to the patient or just because they don't see what you may see........
 
Case in point.........my daughter had a malignant Brain tumor when she was 8yo.  It took me 9 mos and 7 docs to get her diagnosed.  It finally took me pitching a bloomin fit and demanding an MRI.  I was deemed paranoid and over reactive due to my medical knowledge......I would observe things my daughter did for months document them, and tell the docs.......no one listened except my ENT..........how ridiculous is that.
 
My point here is, this was a HUMAN being, not even a dog that can NOT communicate and look how long it took.........ok punch line.............
 
Mandy is now 22 yo, will graduate college in Dec...........has many hormonal/endocrine issues due the radiation but she is alive and thriving............
 
End of speach...........seizures are treatable and possibly heriditary.  One must determine if there is something other than epilepsey going on though.  Brain tumors can cause a seizure too........along with a blow to the head etc. 
 
The breeder should have been notified and check said breeding stock.  Also the warrentee should have this covered if one was given.  Ret pup, exchange or pay medical expenses up to the original cost of the dog. 
 
Carol
 
Southern Charm Labradoodles
 
www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com


Cay Deanns - The Email Queen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Don't chastise the woman for not getting the dog to the vet when she noticed the seizure.  This is often immpossible, just like getting a person to a doctor when they are having one.
-Cay-

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