--- 
Abbie- 
We adopted her from a place call "Rainbow Rescue Ranch", and I am 
not sure if they get all their animals from puppy mills or various 
places. I found her on Petfinder. I was specifically looking for a 
labradoodle and had been searching for months. She was 10 weeks old, 
so that is why she was not "fixed" yet. I have a male schnoodle, 
that we also adopted and found on petfinder.com and he was neutered 
already. My husband is in the Military and will be home on leave in 
April, so I am going to make the appointment in April to have her 
spayed and microchiped. I appreciate the information and everyone's 
passion about labradoodles. I am the first to admit when I am 
clueless about a subject, and I really was about breeding. I am in 
love with my labradoodle, she is very important to my family and I 
won't do anything to risk her health. I will keep your contact info 
because, I will want another "doodle" in the future, and I would 
never in a million years purchase one from a petstore. I only 
believe in adopting animals that need homes. Thanks again, and I 
will keep reading all the posts because I love hearing about other 
labradoodles and getting information. Abby

In [email protected], Abigail Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Did you adopt her from somebody who does puppymill rescue? I have 
had a few foster labradoodles from puppymills and I would never 
adopt out an unaltered dog. Our vets do pediatric spay neuters (the 
studies are not totally conclusive at this time as to the long term 
health problems that might go with pediatric speuters, but when you 
consider how many lives are saved by NOT being bred, it is worth it 
to us). It is usually recommended to speuter BEFORE 6 months, most 
of the vets I know usually say 16 weeks, Same time as they get the 
rabies shots. 
>    Puppymills are NOTORIOUS for dogs with genetic conditions. I am 
SOOOOO glad that you are rethinking breeding her. Honestly, the only 
reason that somebody should breed is to better the breed and, like 
somebody else mentioned it is done with painstaking research.
>    I have always had my animals fixed and really know nothing 
about breeding. I do know that my neighbors cats had kittens in my 
garage one year, two cats had 5 kittens each and 7 of those were 
female. It didn't take me too long to guestimate that if I didn't 
have all of those cats fixed, I would have 9 females (the 7 kittens 
plus the two moms) having 5 kittens each within the next year and if 
there were 31 females of those 45 kittens, we would have 40 moms 
having kittens the next breeding season. It was the best lesson in 
exponential growth that I have ever come across and the best reason 
that I can give people to spay and neuter their animals. 
>    Anyways, like I said, I am so glad to hear that you are going 
to be having her spayed. If you are ever looking for another one, I 
am in southern mid Michigan, not too far from the Indiana border and 
would be happy to help you find another one in need of a good home.  
>         Abbie
> 
> alialx2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:                                  One more question - When is 
a good age to have her spayed. I have 
>  never had a female before. I think my Vet suggested 6  months. 
What 
>  is your opinion?---
>  
>  In [email protected], "Kendra Vestal" <kendra@> wrote:
>  >
>  > I would like to add that just because your dog passes its 
health 
>  tests does
>  > not mean that it should be bred, you must also study the test 
>  results of the
>  > parents of your dog and if possible the test results of their 
>  parents too.
>  > 
>  > HD is a recessive disorder that can be passed down many 
>  generations. Your
>  > dog may test out well but because it is in the line it can 
sneak 
>  up and
>  > affect the puppies. 
>  > 
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [email protected] 
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  > Behalf Of Abigail Morrison
>  > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:56 PM
>  > To: [email protected]
>  > Subject: Re: [labradoodles] Breeding
>  > 
>  > Before you go just breeding your dog to any old dog, please, 
>  please, please
>  > do research on breeding. I have a really great site for you to 
>  look at
>  > http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding/breeder2.html  that can 
help 
>  you in
>  > learning more about the genetic problems of doodles and how to 
>  prevent them.
>  > Are you just looking for any old labradoodle to breed with? 
(this 
>  is a
>  > really great site for just about anything dog related
>  > http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/articles.html)  There are doodles 
>  dying in
>  > shelters because people are breeding them without taking any 
kind 
>  of
>  > responsibility for them. There are also quite a few young 
doodles 
>  with hip
>  > dysplasia that could have been prevented if the breeder would 
have 
>  just done
>  > an x-ray of the parents and had them fixed. Please don't just 
>  breed to make
>  > money or because puppies are cute. Ask the people on this list 
who 
>  have
>  > young doodles with hip dysplasia if they think it is fun to 
deal 
>  with a dog
>  > , or worse a puppy, who wants to play but can't because of the 
>  pain it is
>  > in. Are you prepared to be responsible for those puppies for 
the 
>  rest of
>  > their lives? Do you plan on selling these puppies on spay 
neuter 
>  contracts
>  > or will you have them fixed before they are sold? If you don't 
>  have any
>  > plans for having the puppies fixed, are you prepared to deal 
with 
>  the
>  > offspring of those puppies? The labradoodles who are dying in 
>  shelters were
>  > bred by somebody who was just out to make a buck and wouldn't 
take
>  > responsibility for that life when it came time. Good breeders 
take 
>  their
>  > puppies back at any time, for any reason. Another thing that a 
>  good breeder
>  > does is not make money. They do the testing needed, sometimes 
on 
>  both
>  > parents, and make sure that mom and the puppies only have the 
best 
>  vet care,
>  > shots, wormed, deflead. I have never known a breeder who breeds 
>  for the
>  > right reasons, to better the breed, to ever make money doing 
it. 
>  They do it
>  > because they spend countless hours figuring out which two dogs 
to 
>  breed to
>  > make the best puppy of that breed in the world.
>  >    I have spent 5 years working at vet offices and have seen so 
>  many people
>  > who either spend thousands of dollars because something 
unexpected 
>  happened,
>  > or they have to have mom and or the puppies put down because 
they 
>  weren't
>  > prepared for the unexpected. PLEASE be prepared to spend 
thousands 
>  of
>  > dollars, everytime a bitch has puppies, it can be dangerous 
and, 
>  take it
>  > from me, you will never need those emergency vet visits when 
the 
>  vet is
>  > open, it will always cost more because it is after hours. Here 
is 
>  an idea of
>  > what it will cost to do things right. 
>  http://www.godivalabs.com/cost.html
>  >    If you would like to help out with the homeless ones, I 
would 
>  love to
>  > help you to learn more about fostering, that way we can save 
more 
>  doodles
>  > who will be killed rather than adding to the problem.
>  >     Plus, spaying your dog before her first heat is something 
you 
>  can do to
>  > add years to her.http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html
>  >    Good luck, I hope that if you do decide to breed, you will 
do 
>  it AFTER
>  > you have done your research, so that nobody has to deal with a 
>  puppy with
>  > hip dysplasia or other genetic problems because you didn't do 
your 
>  homework.
>  >        Abbie
>  > 
>  > lx2 <abby.fernandez@> wrote:
>  > 
>  >  I am looking for a male Labradoodle in the Illinois/St.Louis 
>  to
>  > breed 
>  >  with my female labradoodle in approx 2-4 months. Please 
>  email me if 
>  >  you know where I can start to find someone interested. 
>  Thanks.
>  >  
>  >  
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Abigail S. Morrison
>  >  
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>  > 
>  > 
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>                        
> 
> 
>   Abigail S. Morrison
>    
>    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. ~Thomas Jefferson~
> 
> 
> 
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