Il 06/04/2015 02:18, Golden Ring ha scritto:
Hi,
Apologies if this is a dup; I'm not sure it got through the first time.
I've been thinking recently about how to do recent changes patrol
better. I've prototyped a tool, which you can see at
http://recent-changes.appspot.com/.
Nice. It reminds me of rech <https://tools.wmflabs.org/pltools/rech/>...
This is currently implemented on Google AppEngine, basically
becausethat's what I had to hand when I set out and already knew
something about using. It uses the MediaWiki API to retrieve diffs.
This is not ideal for a few reasons, not least because it wouldn't
take very heavy use of the tool before I'd have to start paying for
it, which would probably mean putting ads on it. I can't be dealing
with all that.
I suppose the cost is related to Google charging for bandwidth use
beyond a threshold?
Since the app needs JavaScript anyway, you could simply retrieve recent
changes on the client, thus avoiding much of the server-side traffic.
Somewhere on the API pages, it mentioned that it's possible to develop
tools in MediaWiki Labs, so here I am. I've read some of the
arthitecture and 'getting started' sort of pages on the WikiTech
pages, but TBH I'm struggling to get my head around it all. A few
specific questions:
First of all, let's start right. Please read this page
<https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Labs_labs_labs> about the naming.
You're probably looking for "/Wikimedia/ Labs" and specifically "/Tool/
Labs".
Is Labs the right place to develop this sort of tool as part of the
MediaWiki software, instead of as an external tool?
I think I need to start a new project for this. Is that right?
If so, how do I go about starting a new project?
Or should I join the Tools project?
Labs is precisely for external tools, and I'd say Tool Labs best fits
your needs.
To enhance MediaWiki's built-in patrolling functionality, you should
read this
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker> instead.
Use your judgement and common sense
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-October/075137.html>
to decide whether it's better to develop your tool on Tool Labs or as
part of MediaWiki (either core or an extension).
If I could make a suggestion, it might be worth mentioning labs a bit
more prominently on the API pages - I didn't know Labs existed when I
set out to develop this tool. Also, a proper 'Getting Started' page,
which states simply what you can do with Labs and how to get started
doing it, would be great. It's possible it's there and I just haven't
found it!
There are plans for that <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91509>.
Regards,
GoldenRing
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