Zhou, Sounds good. Thanks for the update!
Pine On Apr 23, 2016 22:20, "Zhou Zhou" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Pine, > > The publication of the initial round of community consultations for a > revised Labs Terms of Use probably will go out in a couple of weeks (I am > getting it reviewed right now internally). We will of course notify this > mailing list once that happens. > > As for the Wikimetrics' privacy practices, I have reviewed them and I > believe the issue is mainly a messaging problem (As you noted earlier, the > privacy disclaimer on that project might be confusing.). We are currently > surveying all WMF projects hosted on Labs since I do not think we have > always aligned our practices consistently across our Labs projects. Once > that is done, we will have a better idea of whether we should create > different messaging or a different privacy policy that will be uniquely > applicable to all WMF created Labs projects. I think it would be better to > have this consistency rather than creating anything just for Wikimetrics > right now. This process might take some time so it is hard for me give an > estimate right now but I hope to have it done by the end of next month. > > Hope that helps! > > Best, > > Zhou > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Zhou, >> >> When might we be able to see drafts of privacy policy updates for Labs >> and Wikimetrics? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pine >> On Mar 15, 2016 13:30, "Zhou Zhou" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Pine, >>> >>> Thank you for bringing this up. >>> >>> By interstitial, I assume you are referring to the privacy policy blurb >>> that appears here <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/policy> (and also as >>> noted on the Labs TOU). >>> >>> The interstitial is there to provide notice to end users of WMF Labs >>> projects that the projects are (usually) not developed and controlled by >>> WMF but by individual members of our community. As such, the disclaimer >>> warns users that the standard WMF TOU/privacy policy are no longer >>> applicable and empowers users to make educated decision about how others >>> might use their data. >>> >>> Having said that, I understand there might be concerns on the way we >>> present this issue to the end user in the interstitial. We will look into >>> how we can better direct lab developers to draft a clearer privacy policy. >>> If you have specific suggestions in clarifications you would like to see, >>> please send them my way. We will also look into incorporating into the next >>> draft of the Labs TOU your point about real-world consequences for misuse >>> of data. >>> >>> With respect to Wikimetrics, we also plan on modifying its privacy >>> policy to address your concerns and clarify on how the data is being used >>> instead of relying on the standard interstitial. >>> >>> Let me know if you have any questions. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Zhou >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Michelle Paulson < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> [+Zhou as he is handling Labs TOU issues (but he and I will coordinate >>>> offline on privacy aspects of proposed changes as needed)] >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From this conversation, I'm having trouble figuring out why >>>>> Wikimetrics would have that interstitial on it. Amanda, do you know why >>>>> that interstital is there? >>>>> >>>>> Speaking generally, I would like to suggest to Michelle that >>>>> clarification on the interstitial warnings and in the Labs TOU would be >>>>> helpful, as well as an amendment to the Labs TOU that outlines real-world >>>>> possibilities for legal consequences for mishandling or misuse of private >>>>> data that's obtained in Labs. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Pine >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Zhou Zhou >>> Legal Counsel >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th Floor >>> San Francisco, CA 94105 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged >>> information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please >>> delete it and let us know about the mistake. 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