Paul,

On 8/21/07, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Obviously releases are banned for Apache Labs projects, but are non-
> official snapshots of working states available to be pushed to, say,
> a people.apache.org/~<me> style place?

That's a very fine line to tread. The original debate about releasing
included opinions expressed about about not even tagging lab code,
though the consensus seems to have been that the rule is expected to
be interpreted as "no packaging".

I think the feeling is that if your lab was at the point where it had
something which you wanted to deliver to people who couldn't build it
from svn then that would indicate that it had outgrown the lab. I have
some sympathy with your plight, java projects with many dependencies
can be a royal PITA to build, which creates a bar for reviewers and
I'm not sure that publicising your lab by making it easy to let people
take a "quick look" is exactly the same thing as having something to
release, but I suspect that others would disagree with me.

Perhaps you could package up all of the dependencies on
people.apache.org/~<me> and streamline the build, or is the target
moving too quickly?

I think that if there's a clear gap between a lab outgrowing the labs
and being ready for the incubator we may be failing in our mission to
allow commiters to innovate without having to host their projects
externally.

d.

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