Fellow researchers,

we had this discussion before:
Can a lab move directly to a subproject without going through proper Incubation or Incubator IP clearance first?

When Droids moved out, some people wanted it to directly go to Lucene or hc. Thorsten decided to go to Incubation instead and I seconded this. After the fact a discussion about this topic popped up, with no outcome in terms of policy or vote.

With Vysper, I changed my mind two times in the last weeks:
1. I didn't want to move on without at least 2 more contributors.
2. I didn't want to move to a subproject, I always wanted to go to Incubation.

But now I think it is best to move to MINA, as proposed by Emmanuel at ACEU09. Vysper has a greater than zero chance of getting a GSoC09 student. Having a student means (according to the ASF GSoC admins, for good reasons) not to be in Labs.

Some people from the MINA community are eager to take a closer look or even work on/use Vysper. This proves that there is already more community traction when only discussing about moving out than there ever was on site here at Labs.

So, I'd like to move Vysper code to MINA directly, but your opinion might vary. What do you think is neccessary to do? Particularily:
+ Do we have to execute Incubator's IP clearance process?
+ Is it sufficent for MINA PMC to vet the lab's code "internally", that means without going through Incubator?

Some interesting takes on this can be found on the lab ML starting 2008-10-29 (both links link to the same thread):

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200810.mbox/%3c1225320683.13606.43.ca...@cartman%3e
http://markmail.org/thread/wkqbspufnv2klcs7

Thanks,

  Bernd


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