Gosh, that doesn't seem a very positive reception to change. Some comments in line.
...ant On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Jochen Wiedmann <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> - support git. I'm not up to speed on the current state of play with >> the ASF infrastructure git support but it sounded like it was starting >> to happen so labs could try to be one of the initial users > > That's a discussion, which is completely separated from the labs. > Infra will support Git or will not, but that's their choice and won't > be influenced by Labs. > Yes sure it would definitely need Infra support to help drive that. As I said i don't know the current state but from what i've heard it may well be possible to have an initial trial that labs could be part of to avoid the risks of using an existing TLP to iron out the wrinkles. > >> - provide access to non-existing ASF people. Perhaps something like >> as long as there is an ASF committer initially creating the lab then >> they can get non-asf people access to participate. > > Difficult. Violates a standard ASF policy. My guess is that the'd > need at least to sign the standard CLA, which is basically the same > hurdle than accepting them as committers. > I don't see any policy violations, as you say the new person submits a CLA and then the Labs PMC votes them as a committer. Where's the issue? The point is to make it known that its an available and easy option. The last lab created was monsoon and that has now moved out to google code for exactly this reason that a non-existing ASF committer couldn't participate here. > > >> - allow releases. Just need to make sure its all clearly identified >> as not an official ASF release. > > Any suggestions on how to "clearly identify as not"? > > The various incubation policies could be used as a start - things like artifact naming. If the Labs PMC decides this is a worthwhile thing to do then I'm sure we could come up with a set of requirements and get the boards blessing. >> - encourage the ASF GSoC students to do their projects here. There's >> some discussion right now on code-awards@ about where students do >> there work for the ASF projects and it sounds like currently most use >> github > > I think that GSoC students have it difficult enough to work with a new > environment even without the additional problems of the lab. Apart > from that, they are better off in the same environment than their > respective mentors. > So as this option isn't available yet instead they're doing it out of the ASF at places like github. How is that better? ...ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
