> I also don't see how following the normal Apache processes for things
> like committers or releases sees Labs "gather a whole raft of rules"
> it looks more like the opposite to me - Labs has come up with a whole
> raft of rules to prevent Labs doing things and thats one of (just one
> of) the reasons people are going elsewhere.
>
> IMHO if the Labs rules were simplified and more innovative or even
> experimental ways were found to fit in with the ASF then that would
> help make it more vibrant. Why not just give it a try!

Very well said!

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