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On 15 Jun 2011, at 10:08, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> 
> 
> But:
> - the entry for a lab is to strict (only experimental features, see
> discussion between Ross and myself)

I don't think I ever said *only*, I said it is expected that there will be lots 
of fast fail experiments. 

There is actually only one entry rule - "are you an Apache committed?"


> - how can a lab become successful with so much rules (no releases)?

Labs are not supposed to be successful it's a fast fail environment. That's the 
key point for me. 

> 
> 
>> I see it as entirely fine that labs should go quiet from time to time, and
>> believe the only thing we really should do in this situation perhaps is
>> advertise labs more widely.
> 
> We should first discuss if there is still a real need of labs before
> putting more effort in it - my 2 cents

The overhead of maintaining labs is minimal, the benefits are potentially large 
(not all fast fail experiments will fail). I believe there is a need. I agree w 
can make better use if labs. But I don't think changing it's purpose will have 
that effect, at least not in any of the ways proposed so far. 

Ross


> 
> Cheers
> Christian
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Graham
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