Like most things around here, it's best to ask in the specific community where you find the confusion. In the case of Labs, it's a known issue[1]. If you want to help us (labs) improve the situation, that'd be great. There's history in our mail archives.
Thanks, --tim [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LABS-512 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi. > > I am not sure if this is the right place for such a question/suggestion, but > better here than nowhere :-) > > I have lately been meet with confusion in 2 situations, both at ASF > community level (at least if you look from a distance). > > Lazy consensus defines "silence is consensus", but projects (like e.g. labs) > tends to redefine this rule: > > "Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The creation of the lab > requires a PMC lazy consensus vote (at least three +1 and no -1, 72 hours)" > > In my mind this sentence is hard to understand, does it mean: > a) PMC who dont send an explicit +1/-1 cast a +1 == "silence is concensus" > or > b) 3 +1 pmc votes is needed, so the rules of "lazy consensus" does not > apply > > The people who wrote the lines I quote are all much more experienced in "the > apache way" than I am, but I believe its important that newcomers (like > myself) can read and understand what is written, without having to read > "between the lines". > > I suggest, that we make an effort to at least at ASF community level, not to > confuse, but to be precise. I believe it would be correct to append [1] > with: > > "Lazy consensus cannot be used, if the project requires a minimum number of > +1 for the proposal to be accepted" > > @labs, please dont feel targeted, I am not picking on your project (which I > happen to believe is VERY important, and much too unknown"), but allowing > myself to use your good website as documentation for my point. > > rgds > jan I. > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org
