Just a second note, I had a long discussion with a potential labs project a 
couple of years ago.

They presented me with a good point on releases (I would however prefer a real 
solution).

With the GitHub integration, it is easy to clone the lab to your private 
account, remove the apache name and do your own release,
since apache does not register trademarks for a lab, technically there are no 
violations (morally is another matter).

This was the reason why I pushed for a possibility to do releases directly, but 
limited, since they have not passed the same filter as a Incubator/TLP release.

rgds
jan I.


> On 22 Sep 2017, at 11:48, Danny Angus <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> One of the biggest sticking points on the use of labs is the limitation
> imposed by the board on our ability to make "releases".
> It is my opinion that a compromise is possible, and I would propose that
> labs be allowed to offer "nightly builds" but that any actual release
> should be done via the incubator.
> 
> I would like to canvas other opinions here, and see if we can reach
> consensus on a more detailed proposal which meets the needs of the labs and
> adequately addressed the concerns of the Board wrt oversight and liability.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Danny


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