>> "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Only works in the UK because we know van Gogh is pronounced 'van Go' >>> in the >>> US. The UK tends to pronounce it 'van Goff'.
and I replied: >> And in the Netherlands, they pronounce it with a difficult, I don't >> know, >> glottal? sound. and Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Tamara, say "gracht" (canal) > >I'd do my best (imagine choking on a chicken bone twice, with an "aaah" >in the middle), and the room would explode in friendly laughter; >"ah..." they'd say, "you *might* 'make it' in *Belgium*, but, in >Netherlands, you need to practice a lot more..." > >"Glottal" is right, Lynn; we have trouble coping with it because, >except for the Netherlands version of Dutch, glottal stops of that >intensity are used only in African and Arabic languages; all European >ones are much more gentle :) Yeah, I can hear it in my head, but I can't *make* that sound voluntarily. At least not when I am healthy! Now in the middle of the winter, in the middle of the second cold (the one that followed right on the heels of the first cold), I might wake up in the middle of the night making similar noises, but at that point I'm trying to breathe, rather than communicate. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com Who confesses to being mostly Dutch -- you can't tell a thing from last names! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
