I once got a telemarketer call from a woman who asked for me by name.  I had
received enough telemarketer calls that I didn't want to tell her I was who
she was asking for or not, so I asked who was calling.  She said she couldn't
tell me until she knew if it was me.  I said I couldn't acknowledge if that
person lived here or not until I knew who was calling.  She repeated she
couldn't say until she knew I was the person she asked for.  It went round and
round for at least 10 minutes.  I could tell she was getting frustrated, and I
was getting kind of bored with it so I hung up.

I almost always ask who is calling now.  We get a lot of automated calls now
and I have been putting them on a call blocker list, but they seem to have
millions of numbers they can call from, or else they have ways around the
blocker.  We screen some through our caller ID, but some you can't really tell
as Pay as you Go cell phones just come through as "wireless caller."  The last
time someone called wanting money, I was very apologetic and started telling
them about my financial woes and bills and then said "sorry" and hung up.

Liz in breezy, chilly Missouri.



-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Walton <[email protected]>
To: Lace Chat <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:00 am
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Warning


[with apologies for duplication to Lesley Blackshaw - when I sent this
esterday I was in a hurry to go out to an appointment and pressed on
reply' instead of 'reply all'  --  Linda]

 used to get these calls too, but I seem to have put a stop to them.
Crossed fingers!)
Like you, Lesley, one of these calls arrived on a day when I was
repared to waste time on it.  Usually I just told the girl that I
idn't have a computer, or to 'go phishing elsewhere' and the call would
e ended sharply, but a few days later there would be another one - very
iresome.  The main problem is not just to stop the call at the time,
ut to find a way to cause them to never want to call you again.  Simply
utting down the 'phone or being rude to them can produce 'revenge'
alls.  Twice I've had a series of calls in the middle of the night, and
hen you pick up the call it simply goes to a little recorded 'goodbye'
essage.  (This was exceptionally annoying when we were worried about a
elative who was very sick in hospital.)  They are impossible for
ritish Telecom to trace, of course, but I recognised the voice on the
ecording from other calls.
So this time I decided to go along with them, and was transferred at
nce to her 'supervisor'.  I pretended to follow his directions, but
lso put in lots of jokes and flirtatious remarks.  Anyone listening to
 recording would know at once that I was merely spoofing him, but as he
ook it all seriously I continued.  A couple of times he wondered if I
as really entering his instructions, and I assured him I was - although
apping the keys helped me to have honesty in my voice, I didn't tell
im that the computer was switched off, and I did make notes of what he
as asking me to do.  Of course, I could only guess what he might have
xpected the computer screen to be showing.  Finally, he had a tantrum
nd announced that he would strike my name from his list, so that no-one
ould ever offer to help me again, and I would be left with the problems
till on my computer, then he cut off the call in a huff.  (Dearie,
earie me!  And he must have wasted a good quarter of an hour on me,
uring which he wasn't annoying anyone else either.)
Success!  There haven't been any calls since then, (several months ago);
nd, as there never were any problems with my computer, I'm perfectly
atisfied with it.
Since then I've tried other sorts of acting to get rid of this kind of
epeat scam callers.  A good one is to keep saying "Hello?"  as though
ou can't hear them, (I see this as revenge for the sort of call where
t is silent when you first pick up).  Another tactic is to pretend that
he line is very bad, that you can hear their voice but not what they
re saying, and ask them to call back another time - it's surprising how
ften they never do.  (I developed this one when we really were having
rouble with the line, and a man was working away on the box at the end
f the road for two days.)
Maybe these will help others - does anyone else have any schemes that
ave worked?  I'd really like to know!
Linda Walton,
in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where we've been having a
emarkably mild January, especially compared to last year's deep snow,
ut this morning there was a heavy frost).

n 13/01/2012 12:19, Lesley Blackshaw wrote:
> On 13/01/2012 11:58, David C COLLYER wrote:
>> >>>>Dear Friends,
>>
>> this afternoon about 4:00 o'clock I received an unusual phone call on
>> my landline. A woman asked me whether I had looked at my "computer
>> management page" as they'd sent me a number of messages lately telling
>> me I was spreading trojans and worms. In wondered what she actually
>> meant by "computer management page"?? <<<<
>
>
> Variations of this call are our most frequent 'spam' phonecalls at the
> moment. In particular telling us that there are serious security issues
> with our Windows computers. When we say that we only have Macs the call
> is cut off; same thing happens if we say we don't have a computer. I did
> once let the guy waffle on for ages, pretending to input everything he
> asked me to (I was bored and putting off a job I didn't want to do).
> When he asked me what I could now see on my screen I spelled out T H I S
> I S A S C A M. That also resulted in the phone call ending somewhat
> abruptly.
>
> There are so many mallicious calls and emails these days, it's sometimes
> difficult to pick out genuine callers.
>
> Lesley
> Marple UK
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