Am back, though barely, and just catching up with lace (Avital, kindly, unsubscribed me from chat when the Major and I came to a misunderstanding on the subject of proper procedures <g>). 132 messages for 7 days -- y'all have *not* been making hay while the sun was shining, and now the opportunity is gone... :)
Hope everyone else makes it home safely from the convention -- some people (like Jeri) had a a really long haul driving home, and the weather was foul in spots.
On Sunday, Aug 3, 2003, at 05:08 US/Eastern, Bridget Marrow wrote:
I'm currently working my way through Mary Niven's "Flanders Lace", and its driving me mad! I don't really like working from diagrams, and find Flanders ground very frustrating - 4 pairs and 6 (count 'em!) separate stitches for one pinhole!
In addition to all the most excellent advice you've already got (the exchanges of workers for passives and the ring pairs are *the* vital bits that carry over from Flanders to Binche -- sometimes , Binche being the "wild card" of laces <g> -- and try perfecting your Paris ground, and don't fret too much about the sequence in which you learn the "4-per-pin" laces)...
I apologise if someone has already mentioned this and I missed it; I've been trying to read through as fast as I could to catch up, so was not as careful as usual. The subject of the bitchiness of the Flanders ground came up during one of the (early, folks; we were off and running at a crack of dawn <g>) breakfasts.
What none of the books seems to mention (and, apparently, neither do most of the teachers of Flanders) is that Flanders ground (whichever version of it you do) is, essentially, "roseground a rebous" -- you have *the same stitches*, in the same sequence, as you'd make in any roseground (*not* the Danish roseground, which is honeycomb ground in the English-speaking world), but you use one pin only.
So, where --in the roseground as you know it -- you have 4 pins (one for each outer corner of the "rose"), in Flanders ground you have none -- you control those holes strictly by tensioning. But, where in the roseground you have no pins in the centre (because you don't need them), in Flanders ground it's your one port in the storm. Roseground in reverse, yes? (it'll take me weeks to get rid of Ulrike Loehr's speech patterns -- she's my goddess after the Convention <g>)
The thing is that, while I have very little use for Paris (not my cup o'T), and I had even less for Binche (before Loehr <g>), I adore Flanders, and would like for others to love it too. And I think that looking at its ground in this way saves one a lot of frustration.
Yours, still unable to begin the post-convention decompression, ----- Tamara P Duvall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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