Wow. I got up this morning, and the list of new emails didn't fit on the
screen...
> >And can I put the pricking on my website?
>
> I wouldn't; I'd put a photo of the finished lace, and reference the
> pattern to the book you got it from.
Seems reasonable.
> >Can I use these braids in my patterns (including "patterns" that are
> >just a
> >straight piece of braid for a bookmark <g>) without copyright
> >infringement?
>
> But... When I publish (website or hard copy; makes no difference) a
> pattern which uses one of the braids from one of the books, I do not
> attach a diagram to it; I refer people to the (relevant) book for it,
It seems like an unpleasant surprise to buy a lace pattern and then find out you
need another book to actually make the lace...
Where do you draw the line? I assume you're OK with learning something like
roseground from a book, using it in your pattern and including a diagram - I
guess I see Milanese braids as being on the side of roseground rather than full
designs.
> >I draw diagrams by myself, can I put them on my webpage?
>
> IMO, if you *copy* by hand (either via tracing paper or via graph
> paper), it's still "no cigar" - the diagram belongs to whoever came up
> with it in the first place
Right. The question is, if I can just look at the lace (which isn't designed by
the authors and isn't copyrighted) and figure out how it could be made (probably
won't be the same as the diagram in the book, but will give the same effect or
close), and draw a diagram of that, is that OK? Of course I have seen the
diagram in the book, so it can be hard to tell how much I'm relying on my memory
of that...
By the way, is the detailed method of making the braid (i.e. the content of the
diagram) copyright too, or just the image? I.e. do all Milanese lacemakers, or
most of them, learn to make the braids in the specific way described in the
book, or do they come up with their own slightly different ones? Or, did the
authors of the book look at a made lace piece and come up with a diagram for the
braids, or learn to make the braids from other lacemakers?
Weronika
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Weronika Patena
Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA
http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika
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