Jeri, and other Tatters on the list - please do not become offended by this
comment about "tat".....in England, "tat" (as distinct from "tatting"!) means
rubbish or scruffy articles.   What this posting was referring to is all the
other rubbishy bits and pieces which are advertised on e-bay as being
lacemaking equipment just because the sellers don't really know what the
articles are.

Nothing to do with denigrading tatting as a craft at all!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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> Ebay (UK) has now altered their listings for craft items and has included a 
> 
> lacemaking category 
> http://home.listings.ebay.co.uk/Lacemaking_W0QQfromZR12QQsacategoryZ57201QQso
> cmdZListingItemList
> This page lists all the lace bobbins etc but also some of the tat that 
> hardly 
> qualifies as 'lacemaking' 
> Regards
> 

Lacemakers!

This is an opinion that varies from country-to-country. This posting 
originated in Europe. In the U.S., we include tatting as one of the lace
categories. 
It is featured in our lace club bulletins, and is taught at our lace 
convention classes. It is given a place/category at lace exhibitions. Tatters
have 
been known to become enraged with a generalization about their craft that 
excludes it from the lace category. 

It is best to realize there are quite a few techniques that have been labeled 
as lace that in a narrow definition would not be. Through long usage, and 
commercial promotion, this is something many of us have come to accept.

In Prague, I gave gifts of small tatted doilies that I commissioned a tatter 
to make for this purpose. I wear these dainty pieces of lace (heavily 
starched) under brooches, and find it a nice way to wear lace because pins can
avoid 
piercing the threads of tatting. However, I do remember someone remarking 
that "We do not consider tatting to be lace". It did not bother me that she had

this opinion, because the OIDFA organization recognizes only needle and bobbin 
laces. Tatters do need to understand that this springs from strongly-held 
beliefs that are taught in needle and bobbin lace classes by some 
firmly-entrenched teachers. 

Tatters, you know what you are making, and many of us will continue to call 
it lace!

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace & Embroidery Resource Center

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