Hi Tamara,  

I applaud the soundness of your thinking, but unfortunately, designers who 
understood the construction of lace and the limitations of production were not 
as universally available as you might think.

I am thinking primarily of the 19th Century when the industrial revolution 
industrialized lace, too.  

1.  The design schools and art institutes only accepted men as students until 
quite late in the 19th Century.  i.e. There was no avenue for an artistically 
inclined lacemaker to pursue designing.

2.  The less well regulated lace industries had more disconnect between those 
who designed the lace and those who made it.  The Honiton lace industry 
suffered from this especially.  Many pieces from the end of the 19th Century 
were exquisitely made, but the designs were from Mars.  The art of the design 
did not play well with the art of the bobbin.  Any number of showpiece laces 
that were submitted to the exhibitions that flourished at that time are just 
plain ugly.  These pieces consumed inordinate amounts of lacemaking skill and 
time, but the design was just faulty.

I think that any lace designer deserves the support of lacemakers by buying and 
making their designs and communicating with the designers about their 
experience with a design.

May your pencil never rest

Patty Dowden

On Jan 10, 2005, at 21:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote:

> How about having the young and beautiful design the lace that they 
> would
> feel comfortable wearing to trendy events and the old and patient can 
> make  it.

*Can* a person who doesn't know anything about lacemaking design lace? 
When I was young and pretty (though not beautiful, alas), I designed 
all of my clothes and my Mother made them. But, she had always been 
making all of my clothes since I was a baby, and always explained what 
she did and why, and had me unpick botched seams since I was 5 (the 
same way she started learning), so that I'd know about the principles 
of construction. Which is why, by 12-13, I was able to pick the right 
fabric and know how it would drape (or not), and began to design what 
*I* wanted to wear (there were problems about colours; I wasn't 
permitted to wear black until I was 16. While I was certain-sure that, 
if I only *could*, then I'd be as beautiful as Brigitte Bardot and 
Sophia Loren <g>).

I was lucky in that my Mother was not only skilled, but willing to be 
experimental; even if she didn't think something would work (or didn't 
like it personally), she'd at least give it a shot. But she also knew 
that I wouldn't come to her with something that was totally impossble, 
because I knew the basics...

I know that, in the past, lace designers weren't necessarily people who 
made lace for a living. But they usually knew enough to design within 
both "canons" - that of the fashion and that of the "rules" of 
lacemaking. No?

-- 
Tamara P Duvall                            http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA     (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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