> To me a rib is 10 stick, a one footside tape (only 1 line of pinholes).
And, on the pinless side you swap the workers, with or without a twist,
yes? That is, you take the last passive and use it as a new worker?
Just as you would at the footside, but pinless? Or do do you use the
same worker to traverse back?
++++ The physics requires that the non-pinned side of the rib do something
clever or else it would just flop around. Bridget Cook shows several different
options always involving swapping the last passive with the worker.
> A roll is carrying threads from one place to another by sewing around
> the group of threads along the edge of the work.
You use one thread to wrap your bundle, or a pair? Or differently in
different techniques? In addition to being ignorant of Honiton, I'm
also ignorant of Duchesse and Cantu... :)
++++ I sew with a pair.
> There exists a much more fidety technique of a what I have always
> identified as a "tube" to distinguish it from the "roll" above. This
> technique is an extension of 10 stick, in that it, too, only has 1
> line of pinholes, but instead of just rolling the threads being
> transported, the weaver work CTC through all the pairs makes the
> footside and then the worker is taken back to the first passive pair
> and worked through to the footside.
Not sure I understand... Starting at the footside: pin under 2 prs,
one's the worker/weaver, the other waits its turn... Then what? The
worker/weaver works in CTC through all the pairs? Or one thread goes
under, one over all the pairs *except* the last, with which it makes a
CTCT and swaps? To go back to the footside in CTC?
The "tube" sounds intriguing, never mind how fussy it is :) Where can I
find it illustrated?
++++ I thought it was in Cook, but I looked and it wasn't there. Now I have
to look through my vast collection of books to try to find it. (May take a
while)
> There seems to be rattling around in my brain someplace a fourth kind
> of carrying threads, but I can't for the life of me bring it to mind.
There are loads and loads of ways of carrying threads... :) Some seem
to have names, some don't.
My speculation is that, as long as the primary aim is to transport a
number of threads from one place to another, there's less likelihood of
having a name for the process - we're interested in *hiding* our
actions, not in exposing them. It's when there's a change in the
"attention angle", when the fact of carrying of pairs becomes more or
less immaterial and the visual *effect* becomes the focus, that a
method gets a name.
Some have names in one language, but not in another. Some have one name
in one language and quite a different one in another... :) Given that
my "funny bone" is always exposed like a raw nerve, my absolute
favourite is the Princesse stitch... :)
That's the one which's somewhat similiar to the Venetian cord; you have
a pack of threads to transport, and you transport them as two "columns"
rather than one (as in a roll). But, instead of weaving *one* thread
over and under the two "columns" (Venetian cord), you weave *two*. They
meet, in a Cross, in the centre, then go on to their over/under
business. Very nice, very useful, though a nuisance to tension
properly.
It's called "Princesse" (stitch?) in German and in French. It's called
"Grand Venetian cord" in Cook's "Practical Skills"... The French book I
have ("Dentelle au fuseau; dentelle du Puy" by a whole lot of authors)
also says that it: "...est egalement appelee: venise batard" (sorry,
can't do the foreign language "squirmies" on my keyboard). My French is
pretty much non-existent, but... From "grand" to "bastard"??? How are
the mighty fallen... <g>
Yours, always interested in language's vagaries in Lextropolis (Clay's
moniker) or Lex Vegas (my step-grandson's), where we're pregnant with
snow, after several successive days of "dusting" (never more than an
inch)
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Tamara P Duvall http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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