In a message dated 8/24/05 9:41:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> What does this have to do with Lace, you might ask? Well, I'm wondering if 
> this trend might also increase the use of the traditional types of vestments 
> 
> that were used prior to Vatican II....People probably know that they were 
> more 
> elaborate, and required a lot of handwork, including lace (viz. the antique 
> alb 
> that Jeri, I believe it was, posted a link to a month or so ago)....
> 

Dear Ricki,

It was someone else who shared the site where one could purchase these 
garments.  I was so delighted to see the vestments, even though the laces 
seemed to 
be of lesser quality than ones seen in Belgium.  

People who attended OIDFA Gent and went on the tour had a wonderful 
experience looking at vestments in various lace exhibits and closely examining 
pieces 
in a ecclesiastical lace collection in Antwerp - I remember narrow corridors, 
climbing stairs, and crowding.  (It might have been the Saint Carolus 
Borromeus.  Sorry - the trip files are packed away where it would take a day to 
find.)  
My impression is that the finest of laces were reserved for the church by the 
women who made laces in European convents, especially in the years before 
1900.  (Search Saint Carolus Borromeus Lace Collection.  My friend, Lori the 
LaceFairy, has entries here.)

Though I do not know how much lace is being made today for church use, there 
has been a continuous effort by embroiderers in certain denominations to 
continue the tradition of making embroideries for churches.  The British 
tradition 
comes to mind - and there are numerous wonderful contemporary books on the 
subject.  Much has been stitched to replace what was lost in the two World 
Wars, 
mostly by volunteers.  The cathedral collections I have visited in England are 
awesome.  Anyone interested should order from InterLibrary Loan the books by 
Beryl Dean -- there are at least 5 titles.  For history there is Mary 
Schoeser's book "English Church Embroidery 1833-1953" second edition 1998, 
published 
by Watts & Company Ltd. (supplier of fabrics since 1874), 0-9533265-0-0 
(Wattsandco.com).  In recent years, old and worn convent/church/cathdral 
embroideries 
have been rescued by the late Elizabeth Hoare of the Watts firm, and are 
housed in a new museum exhibit sponsored by Friends of the Liverpool Cathedral 
Embroidery Museum.  There is a lot of information (and books) that I am not 
mentioning, because they are about embroidery.  (You can do searches and find 
further info about these subjects and places.)

As for lace, there is the 1989 book "Lace for Church Use" by Sister 
Marie-Clare Downham, Batsford, 0-7134-5836-4.  It contains bobbin lace edgings 
for 
palls, lavabo towels, chalice veils, credence cloths, altar cloths, frontals, 
vestments, and Bible markers.  

Perhaps our Arachnes know of other *lace books* in this category?  Books on 
this subject would be welcome additions to the library here.  Recommendations 
please.  If you do not want to de-lurk, please write directly to me. 

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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