"One possibility that has not yet been mentioned is that England had a
number of its men in the Indian subcontinent at some point (the Raj). It
is not inconcevable that some of these men had ivory and exotic wood
bobbins made for gifts to sweethearts and family back in England.
Certainly, a lot of the workboxes and their fittings came from India.

Might not sailors and whalers carve bobbins out of narwhal, whale and
walrus? They would be quite rare, but they should exist ..."

All this is documented as happening, but it is highly unlikely that these 
bobbins would then look exactly like the ones made by the local English 
bobbinmakers.  As I said in an earlier post, there are bobbins made in India 
from 
ivory, but they *look* Indian - or at least not English.  And because the 
bobbin 
makers weren't getting direct feedback from the lacemakers some of the 
ornamentation was impractical.  And the numbers of these overseas or hybrid 
bobbins is 
tiny compared to the thousands that were made for and used by the working 
lacemakers.

The batches of bobbins that turn up on the TV programmes are normally 
'ordinary' Midlands bobbins, which is why we feel so confident in saying that 
these 
particular ones are bone, not ivory.  I am willing to be corrected as I don't 
see a lot of TV, but I don't remember seeing, or hearing about, any Honiton, 
Malmesbury or Downton bobbins.  Perhaps they tended to stay more local to their 
source and usage, and without the beads were more easily overlooked and thrown 
away in house clearances.  For that matter, the same applies to Bucks 
thumpers.

Jacquie

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