On Feb 27, 2006, at 2:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

when I was doing Russian lace with Bridget Cook she
taught me that the Russian tallies are worked with an extra turn around each end thread. In other words if you work your tallies as ctt, it would actually be
ctt,tt.

I've heard of doing the extra twist on the bulging side of the crescent-shaped tallies, but not of doing it on both sides of a simple leaf tally. I can see the point of doing _that_ -- the weaver passes are spaced out more at the double twist side but scrunched together at the single twist side. But, a double twist at both sides? It would only make the leaf less "meaty" all around...

But she also said they are worked with the three passives help up off
the pillow in one hand and the other thread woven through.

Never could get a hang of the "in hand" method, even with photos :) But then I've never seen it done in "real time", which might make a difference. I've always been happy with the "on the pillow" method; like Jacquie's, my hands are small and there's but so far I can stretch the individual fingers and keep them apart while also holding onto the bobbins.

I will find out in April as I'm off to Moscow for 9 days

Do let us know what you find out. The trip sounds fascinating, and I hope you'll have a great time. Just hope the Institute for Decorative Arts clears the snow off its roof regularly <g> See you in Montreal, where I hope you'll teach me all the tricks you've picked up in Moscow (of course, the Moscow region lace is not made the same as the Vologda region lace, but half a loaf is better than no bread, no? <g>)

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Tamara P Duvall                            http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA     (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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