Hi Helen, sounds like you and I do this the same way.  When I first started
the only picture I had was in the Caulfields Dictionary of Victorian
Needlework, under lace (I think).  I hold three bobbiins in my left hand and
literally weave in and out.  I have tried other ways but never got the hang of
it.
I agree,  Helen, the length and position are critical and seem to differ with
the size of the thread.
BarbE  just my ha'penny
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  From: Helen Bell
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  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:32 PM
  Subject: [lace] RE:tallies and leaves


  I'm an in-hand worker of all my tallies and leaves (flat and rolled),
  and I don't have the problem of uneven curvatures, but I do find that
  sometimes my leaves suddenly narrow at the bottom.  I'm much better at
  making them now, but early on it was noticeable.  I tried the method on
  the pillow, and just couldn't figure it out.

  Funnily enough I have small hands, so it's not easy to get the spread
  for a perfectly shaped leaf, but I find if I have my threads just a
  little longer and hold the bobbins a little higher up the shank I seem
  to manage OK - except when the spangle on the weaving bobbin is long or
  has a charm/dangley doo-dad on the bottom, and then it slows me down.

  I forget which edition of Australian Lace it was (one from the 1980's),
  but someone had drawn some cute little caricatures of the different
  sorts of tallies/leaves people make.  One I remember is Miss Annorexic
  (a very long thin leaf/tally), and I forget the other names (can see
  some of the pics in my minds eye though).

  Leaves and tallies (same thing to some of us, with square ended tallies
  and rolled tallies differentiating them) just require patience and
  practice - like any new technique.

  ... And some are more perfect at making them than others (and I'm one of
  the less perfect group :-) ).

  Cheers,
  Helen

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