Hi David,

I went through my Tonder patterns and books.  I found
a pattern that had a grid of dots that I think matches
what you described.  The dots are parallel to, and
spaced the same as, the dots along the edge row on the
pattern.

The picture and diagram show a snowflake ground. 
Looking at the grid like a checkerboard with the pins
at the corners, the black squares had round snowflakes
made with four pair, and the white squares just had
two pair crossing in the middle.

I'm looking at a pattern from 'Onder de loep' by Nora
Andries.  It's a pack of one book and two packets of
patterns.  This is pattern 37 from Patronen II.  Maybe
someone who also has this book can scan and send you a
copy of that part of the diagram.  It's the middle
leaf, right on the fold, that I'm referring to. 
Detail 'p'. 

By the way, I did find half stitch used to fill the
center of some flowers, but the patterns just had a
ring of pinholes surrounding the area.

Best wishes for your lace,
Alice in Oregon -- with a steady downpour all day. 
I'm tired of rain.

--- David in Ballarat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are no working diagrams - just the dots. Thank
> goodness the 
> gimp lines are there. I can easily figure out all
> the point ground 
> areas, honeycomb, leaves etc. However, there is one
> area which is 
> worrying me. It's difficult to describe verbally,
> but it you can 
> imagine a large-ish circular flower of 8 petals. The
> central circle 
> is about 1" in diameter. It is the dots inside this
> central area that 
> I need help with. 

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