Moving this to lace because it's lace related.
Further to any remarks I may have made about copyright on a painting
I'm now pretty sure I was wrong in my first posting to lace-chat about
this and that the right to copy remains with the artist, unless the
contract of sale specifically includes the copyright.
I'm just home from my weekly art class and I asked our tutor about it;
he was very clear about it. If he sells a painting it's only the
physical object that goes, he retains photographs of the work and is
free to use those photographs in any way he chooses. He also said that
including the copyright would add several noughts to the selling price!
On the way home I was thinking about this. If I design a lace pattern
and make a piece of lace from that pattern there's no problem as
copyright on both pattern and lace are mine, but if I legally purchase
a pattern and work it up into lace, the copyright to the pattern
clearly remains with the designer, but the interpretation would be
mine. The chances of me following a pattern to the last detail are
slim anyway and most likely if someone else also bought the pattern and
worked it up their piece of lace would be rather different to mine.
Does that mean that I can take a photo of the lace and use the photo in
any way I wish? I know that I couldn't legally sell or give away the
pattern.
As for using a painting as inspiration for a weaving, or lace pattern I
don't think there would be a problem as the mediums are so different.
A lace pattern would be all dots and zig zag lines which to an
untrained eye would bear no resemblance to the original picture anyway
and the weaving would also be substantially different. The only way
you might just run into trouble is if you take a photo of your painting
and publicly display the photo alongside the finished weaving. If you
wish to display both picture and weaving use the original picture.
Another thought!
In Veronica Sorenson's 'Design Techniques for Modern Lace' - Batsford
1989 there are a couple of pages about 'lace from lace' where she
describes how to make a pricking from an existing piece of lace. No
pricking is shown but there are photos of a bought Bruges mat and her
version with different fillings and cloth/half stitch arrangement.
Veronica wrote "A word of warning, though. Do *not* pass the pricking
so made to any other person. This must remain for your sole use in
order to prevent an infringement of any copyright that may be in
existance on the original design."
I think that that is much the same as using a painting as the basis for
a weaving. OK so long as you don't pass on the detailed instructions
for making the woven piece.
Brenda
In particular, I have an original watercolor by an unknown artist (who
may or may not be alive) of a boy standing on a bridge which
transcends a rocky gorge. I have thought I might try to make a black
and white (with shades of grey) weaving of this painting. Whether I
**can** do this is yet to be determined, and as I have no intention of
selling it, I think I may legally do whatever I wish, but considering
the issue and seeing the "copyright" topic on chat, made me wonder if
I could legally weave it for resale. A more realistic and honest
question -- if I am able to weave a rendition, may I enter it in the
local May Show as my own work?
Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
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