Also when you are talking about the number of twists to do after gimps, it 
depends on which way you do your gimps.

I know Achim said she twists twice then lifts the left hand thread to pass 
the gimp through, but if you study it you will see you only then have one twist 
left before the gimp.  Even clearer, just do one twist, lift the left hand 
thread, pass the gimp through and voila, no apparent twist.

I usually teach my students to lift the right hand thread as this then leaves 
in place behind the gimp the number of twists that you think you have.  
Another twist sits above and below the gimp (this is where the second one 
disappears to when you lift the left hand thread) and a second one 'closes the 
gate'.  

The reason why I teach to lift the right hand thread is that this is all you 
have to remember.  If you lift the left hand one you have to remember to twist 
twice first; remember, if you don't, you are left with no twist at all.  
Having passed the gimp through, if you want it held in place with twists you 
can 
see that only one still 'leaves the gate open', you need the second one; you 
don't need to remember it.

So, if you want to have no twists after the gimp when going into cloth stitch 
(and this is what Pat Read taught me for Bucks; match the twists to where you 
are going) lift the right hand thread, pass the gimp through and go straight 
into cloth stitch.  This way the gimp can snuggle down close against the 
clothwork and give a better outline than if it's held off at a distance by 
twists.

Jacquie, in a very wet and miserable Lincolnshire.

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