Hi Jeri et al,

The washing warnings rang a bell, and made me shudder! Several years ago, I had my outfit for our son's wedding made by a local couturier, and she asked me afterwards to help with the 'scut work' of basting, and things she thought I could manage better than some of her trainees. I did enjoy it, and did get to do some lovely things but, one which stuck in my mind, and which still features in my nightmares, is the lovely old hand-made lace I was asked to dye with tea!

A lady came in with the material for her wedding gown, and also had a large package in her hands. We enthused over the material, then I enthused even more over the contents of the package - a looooong length of bobbin lace, quite coarse, about five inches wide, and white. She wanted this dyed to match her material for her dress - and I was the one asked to go into the kitchen, brew up some tea, and dunk the lace. I did try to ask her why on earth she couldn't match the wedding dress material to the lace, instead of the other way round, but nothing shifted her - so off to the kitchen I glumly went!

The lace did eventually match the dress - and she did eventually send me some photographs! She did look lovely - but how I wished that she's used some cheap white machine lace to dye with the tea ...

Carol - in Suffolk UK.

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Subject: [lace] Plastic Storage and Some Washing Warnings


In a message dated 12/2/2007 1:50:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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FWIW,  textiles are stored in museums in plastic that is the same as
Rubbermaid/Sterilite containers sold in the USA as they are acid free and will not harm fibers. I don't want to misquote the exact plastic as I have brain fog
this morning, but they will help seal out oxidizatation and prevent  acid
factors. All you have to do is make sure it is clean and away from sunlight.

I think that safe storage and care of products in some  ways was more
proactive in the past, though there was less available to use to protect. I agree with the "needle stuck in thread" and people not even knowing the "nap" of threads, etc. to facilitate execution of a project, which can also enhance
longevity.

I hope your threads all stay safe and last  a long long time...


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Dear Collectors of Lace and Lace Threads,

A late reply, but may be of use for you to consider in New Year.

May I suggest you still wrap your laces and threads in acid-free paper  or
pieces of clean white cotton fabric?   Thoroughly washed and rinsed  white
cotton sheets cut to size would be a good choice. When you lift wrapped laces out
of any storage box, the stress of gravity will then be on  the wrapping
materials.

Second, plastics can attract dust and dirt and soot to the surface
(electrostatically), which will be transferred to lace. Remember the source of plastic, and that it eventually will break down. By using a anti-soiling buffer between plastic and your valuable laces, you give your laces a better chance.

You do not want to make washing necessary.  Every time you wash lace  or
textiles, threads become weaker. Larger pieces require padding at the folds, so
folds do not become creases and the  threads at the creases then become
subject to breaking.

By the way, I've just noticed in a sewing magazine (again!) "Sew Beautiful" #118, 2008, page 69, that when they refer to washing old wedding gowns, they do not mention distilled water or room temperature water (they show a picture of a hot water faucet!). They recommend soaps that are advertised as kind to your hands, and a bleach. In museum conservation classes, I was steered clear of washing compounds that say they are kind to your hands, and I have become wary of all bleach formulas - the damage may take time to become visible.
Was taught that insects may feed  on lanolins and similar.  Chemicals do
funny things over time. When they are combined with earlier chemicals used in manufacturing processes, or home formulas devised by ancestors, the result may
be permanently  yellow laces.  It is an ugly yellow.

Please remember my numerous warnings. Use no bleaches. Use distilled water in the final rinses. The water should be so clean you'd be willing to drink
it!  And, remember museum conservators use Orvus WA  Paste (Sodium Lauryl
Sulfate), a Procter and Gamble washing compound, on  cottons and linens.


Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center



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