>>1) Venus crochet cotton 70, which is a 6-ply (2S/3Z) "cord" and clocks at 27wraps per centimetre. Its equivalents are many, but the most common include: Fresia (linen) 70/2; Peellava (Finnish linen, used by Kortelahti) 90/3; Presencia Fica Bolillos (cotton) 30; Gutermann (silk) 100/3. DMC Cordonnet 70 is just *slightly* finer, at 28 wpc.>>
It is likely this is the thread you are looking for. I purchased some Venus in Brugge on a trip about 4 years ago, but have seen it locally at Lacis since then. I find it most similar to DMC tatting cotton, which is a size 80. I am going from memory, as I did not do a bang up job of looking up the DMC in Brenda's book as Tamara has:) I have used it for making Torchon on 2 occasions. To me it seems a bit finer than the DMC 80. I am not sure if one has more plies, tighter twist, etc......but they are definitely quite comparable in size. The factor that caused me to purchase the Venus is the color. The colors are much deeper and richer than the DMC colors, in my opinion. I hope that helps a bit. Kim -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tamara P Duvall Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:10 PM To: Lace Arachne Subject: [lace] Re: Thread Identification On May 2, 2008, at 21:14, Beverly Bronner wrote: > I am starting a piece of Torchon drawn by Genevieve > Leplat-Greiner but she calls for a type of thread that I am not > familiar > with. [...] The thread is " 2 little balls Venus" If Venus is not > available maybe there is a substitute you could suggest. Venus is a cotton thread. I've never seen, much less used it, so don't know what comes on a "small ball". Brenda Paternoster's book (Threads for Lace) has three varieties of Venus thread listed: 1) Venus crochet cotton 70, which is a 6-ply (2S/3Z) "cord" and clocks at 27wraps per centimetre. Its equivalents are many, but the most common include: Fresia (linen) 70/2; Peellava (Finnish linen, used by Kortelahti) 90/3; Presencia Fica Bolillos (cotton) 30; Gutermann (silk) 100/3. DMC Cordonnet 70 is just *slightly* finer, at 28 wpc. 2) Venus Perle 8, 2S, 15wpc. Equivalents (again, many more than I'm listing): DMC Cordonnet 5; Coats Aida 10; Coats mercerised Crochet 10. Slightly finer (16wpc): Anchor pearl Cotton 8. 3) Venus Perle 12; 2S, 19wpc. Some equivalents: Fresia (linen) 30/2; Presencia Finca Bolillos 20; Tire (silk) Quilters 20. Slightly finer (20wpc): DMC Cebelia 30; DMC Cordonnet 30; Altin Basak (Turkish cotton, often used for tatting) 50. -- Tamara P Duvall http://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
