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>Watching Achim's excellent video, I thought it was interesting the bobbins 
>are wound anticlockwise (as most of the world seems to do)
I thought clockwise was the norm? Or is it another case like the
footside being on the right or left where England differs?
>
>Or perhaps so long as the important rules of "wind off the side not the top 
>of the spool" and "wind the bobbin onto the thread, not the thread onto the 
>bobbin" are observed, it doesn't much matter which way the thread is held on 
>the 
>bobbin.

As I'm sure you have, Jacquie, I have over the years had several
students who are somewhat haphazard in the direction they wind their
bobbins and so both winds are on the pillow at the same time. It doesn't
appear to make the slightest bit of difference to the finished lace. It
does slow you down when you come to lengthen the thread from the bobbin,
because you have to work out which way is "unwind" first! 

>
>Does it help to prevent the problem that some people have, particularly with 
>the Madeira cottons, of the thread untwisting and just falling apart.  Or is 
>this partly to do with the type of cotton fibre that Madeira is made from?
>
Thanks to a correcting comment from Margaret Allen, years ago, when I
was having this problem with DMC Broder Machine, the solution here is
mostly in being strict about turning the bobbin so that it is at right
angles to the thread [between it and the lace] before winding or
unwinding. This way you are unwinding the bobbin, not adding or removing
twists from the thread (as you would if you kept the bobbin in line with
the thread). In certain laces, eg Bucks, the way the bobbins turn in use
has a habit of untwisting the thread, and here I've found that switching
from DMC to William Hall (presumably thus changing from S to Z twist, I
haven't checked) thread solves the problem. I haven't really noticed the
problem with Madeira threads (I have Cotona on one pillow at the moment;
it is the one with DMC that I'm having to retwist at more or less every
picot). 

>Continental bobbins) the hitch is always on top of thread so it slips less and 
>only needs a single wrap into the hitch.  

I always put my hitch on the thread, regardless of the type of bobbin.
(Except for hookies, which don't need a hitch!) 

Bobbins that have the wrong hitch for the direction the thread is wound
always slip, so I do pay attention to making the hitch according to the
way a bobbin is wound - I always wind clockwise, and hitch thus:-
holding bobbin in left hand, head to the right, with index finger
parallel to the bobbin, thread comes from under the bobbin, back to
front, up and over finger, down and between finger and bobbin. Place
finger tip on top of bobbin head and slide the loop from the finger onto
the bobbin. Hitch made. 

For an anticlockwise wind, the bobbin is held as before, but as the
thread is now coming from back to front over the bobbin, it goes down
and under the bobbin, behind and over your finger, down between finger
and bobbin. Then place finger tip on head of bobbin and slip the loop
onto the bobbin as before.

If you hold the bobbin in your right hand, then the anticlockwise
(second) hitch  above is the right way for thread wound clockwise
(looking down on the head of the bobbin) and the hitch described first
is right for an anticlockwise wind.

Some bobbins will not behave, regardless of the above, possibly because
of their weight in relation to the thread (I don't use the short neck so
that isn't the reason). Some threads are too "springy" to stay on
bobbins - synthetics, particularly rayon, and metallics (the 3 ply DMC
gold once drove me bananas!) and for these the hooked bobbins are
better.

Thinking back to this gold, the problem was that once the thread was
wound on the bobbin, the coil thus formed round the neck loosened, and
the bobbin slipped out. I'm wondering if this is the problem Sister
Claire is referring to in talking about the "curl" of the thread? 

In this respect, I don't think there are any proper "lacemaking terms" -
we just use the words we know to describe what is happening (and I say
this after 19 years of making lace). Where there are terms, as with
learning any new language, we all have things we don't know the word
for, and if you ask, someone will fill you in if there is a specific
term. There may be several words (as with a worker pair, in Honiton it
is a runner) but then, often there isn't a specific one! This is why one
student (who was also studying for a degree in textiles) said it would
help if lace books had a glossary at the beginning, so that you could
check the meanings (particularly for things like whole stitch - CTC or
CTCT???) before you start.
-- 
Jane Partridge

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