Well, yes, the virgin ground *is* very different from the diagonal half stitch. Diagonal half stitch in s'G is still half stitch... it's just that the way the pairs are added to the trail and taken out that give it the distinctive look of s'G. The ground stitch which has been the subject of this thread is made with CTT-pin-CTT (or... if you learned "the other" way, TCC-pin-TCC). And it looks like "rose ground" or "virgin ground" or s'G ground... the difference is in the name, not the way the ground is made (although there are many, many variations of this ground regardless of what type lace you're making!).

Clay

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Hello All! The virgin ground that I use is on pg8, Go With The Flow by Marjorie Preece. The diagonal half stitch results in a charming ground of little "buds". Being a newbie, I'm not sure, but it seems quite different from the "rose ground" (??) that I've worked. As in embroidery, so many techniques, so many stitches, so little time! Sincerely, Susan
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