Hello Liz

I'm not a needle lacer but I've done enough to know what it's about and I personally wouldn't recommend using any thread which is wrapped, ie the metallic part is wraped around a silk or viscose core as the friction of pulling the thread through the work many times will cause the metallic wrapping to snag, pull away and expose the core thread,

Madeira No 40 and Sulky Metallic are both wrapped threads, as are most of the finer metallics. I haven't seen Butterfly metallic but if it's a conventional twisted thread then use that. Looking through Ed4 the finest of the readily available metallics is DMC Fil Or (Fil Argent if it's silver) which is probably similar to your Butterfly brand. The DMC is 2Z/3S and although it won't separate easily I think you would be able to get a needlefull at a time.

Brenda

On 7 Feb 2009, at 04:44, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

I need to use gold thread in Needlelace - for the cordonette around the edge, and maybe(Probably) for some couronnes (the little fancy rings that are stab
stitched on afterwards.)

I have Madeira #40 "gold 4", Sulky Metallic, and Butterfly brand (a 3 ply so
I would use only one of the plys, I think)

Question - Has anyone had any experience with using any of these for
Needlework - needlelace or Embroidery?
I am wondering how easily the gold splits and wears through to the cotton core
(I am presuming they all are made similarly)

Which one might be the easiest - or best- to use?

Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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