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Subject: Re: [lace] students-teaching skills
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Hello!  Well, there's nothing wrong with asking the students to "take it
outside".  And the door should be softly closed behind them so they don't feel
they are "getting the boot".  There's usually a table in the corridor with
refreshments etc. where students meet during the break.  If they've not
finished their conversation, they may stay there until they have.  I'm sorry
I'm not interested in aunt Agnes' gall bladder surgery or who has been kicked
off a reality show--that's my story & I'm sticking to it!!  <G>  The
particular class to which I referred involved Elizabethan techniques (plaited
braid stitch--ouch) that required some concentration for just about everyone &
since there were 23 students some consideration was called for.  As I said,
I've not seen this, so far, in lace world.  Maybe because the classes have
been small & intimate (10 students) & we pretty much know one another, rather
than a national/internation event.  I do hear what you are saying
though--you've payed your class fee too, so are entitled to the space.  I say,
as long as your good time doesn't have a negative effect on my good time, we
shall all be happy campers!  I hope I meet you in a class sometime & I shall
show you my secret stash of duct tape <G>!!!  Susan

---- [email protected] wrote:
> This is kind of a tricky problem, because basically, students are there to
> have a good time. The time spent at a lace class comes out of money and
time
> that might otherwise buy a weekend at a bed and breakfast or time spent in
> pleasant pursuits. No one is receiving certification or taking a test at the
end
> of the class. A teacher who comes on too strong in trying to keep order
risks
>  having some students go away mad. Other students are there to learn and
> learn a  lot in a small amount of time and may go away mad if the teacher
doesn't
> keep  order. Sometimes people at a convention, have been put in a class they
> have no  interest in taking, and have decided to come to the convention
purely
> for social  reasons. Likewise, as many people have pointed out, for some,
the
> lace class is  "Mom's night out" for years.
>
> It is the rare teacher who can make everyone happy in this situation. I
> freely admit that I have been in both camps, the person who is trying to
learn  as
> much as possible in as short a time as possible and the person who is
talking
>  too much. (Sometimes even in the same class :-)) Although I always try to
> take reprimands in proper spirit, it can't help but make the class less fun
for
>  the one reprimanded. In a world where you need 8 people to make the class
> "go",  you usually will get both types of student.
>
> What tricks have teachers successfully managed to make both categories of
> student happy?
>
> Devon
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2009 11:21:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Say Hey  Clay!  So-o-o glad you mentioned the student angle of the
> equation!!  So far, I've not seen this problem in the lace classes I've
taken--we're
> all too busy attending to the Cs & Ts.  BUT, I have seen  this in embroidery
> land where gals haven't seen each other since the last  national seminar &
> they're overly excited about being away from home &  DH, kids, pets &
everyday
> responsibilities.  Being class angel in a 4  day surface embroidery class
where
> the teacher could not/would not quell the  near riot--there are no words to
> describe.  Soap operas, weddings, bar  mitzvahs & funerals--no topic was
left
> unexplored.  Those that wanted  peace & quiet appealed to me.  After talking
with
> the teacher &  enduring two days of madness, I finally drew a hairy beast on
> the easel board  & announced that the class was henceforth a "NO Yak Zone".
> Better  but not perfect.  Needless to say, every teacher should be equipped
with
>  a large roll of duct tape for emergencies!!  And the angel should use it
if
> the teacher won't.  Susan, in Erie where it is snowing yet  again.  After
> 142.5" of snow we are closing in on the record of  148".
>
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