To all,
please be awere of the fact that these days machine lace can overcome
this problem of picots and edges
there is the possibility to use watersolube thread on the parts where
you normaly should do the cutting of the differend peaces of
machiend laces
and it is no longer valid that possitions of thread nr 1 cant go to
possition nr 5000 in one and the same "row" of work
in the modern machines they can promtly change possitions of threads
like you should do on your pillow
the reason they do not do it is because it takes time
and we all know time is money
but for the highend market it is done
so you can make lace peaces on these machiens and then just water it and
hocuspocus pats you have the several differend peaces
no cutted threads.....
only strangely looking picots
but this is not a real problem in normal live
because if her ladyship is wearing a scarf well draped over her
voluptous bozem
no one will dare to go look close and ask "is this a normal picot?"
well I wood not do it...
i did not look to the picots
i only looked suspicious to the woven linnen parts
wich seems for me to be to "open" and in a bizare way spaced intervals
inbetween
and i do not agree to the assuption that the ends are taken
""""always""""" care of
yes you might do that but look to what is there to find in most shops
look to the horrors hanign in citys like Brugge Gent Antwerp Brussel......
i m born and raised in Brugge and looked all my life to it
i almost got bad eyes because of it
so BAADDDDDDD
or is this a wrong assuption of me?
please feel always free to correct me
i do not bite very hard....
francis
Alice Howell schreef:
I'll give a try on this.
First, the lace shawl on eBay had a strip of machine made picots
(little loops) sewn on the edges to imitate the picots on handmade
lace that are an extension of the edge stitches. Depending on the
lace, the handmade loops can be made with one thread or with two
threads twisted together.
Some machine made laces are made with a woven background and these are
usually made in quantity and attached together. When they are cut
apart, it leaves single thread ends sticking out all around. I don't
know of any handmade laces that have single threads sticking out.
Bobbin lace is made with pairs, and great care is taken to finish off
the ends so they do not stick out. Needlelace techniques hide the
thread ends.
Alice in Oregon
----- Original Message ----
From: Pat Tinney <tinn...@austin.rr.com>
This brings up a question that I have had on my mind for a while......
I know that most, if not all, of the lace in my church is machine
made. Some of it looks like the pattern was woven and a sizing used to
hold it together. No twist, no cross, no knots.
The one thing I have wondered about, that I also think I see in the
eBay quasi-shawl is that on the edges little threads are sticking out.
It is the existence of these threads that make me think that the lace
in my church is a simple weave that is trimmed at the end of the
manufacturing process.
My question is this: Are there any traditional techniques that have
these short threads sticking out. I cannot tell about the eBay
example, but on the ones in my church these are definitely single cut
threads, not at all like a worker thread going around a pin.
Any information or resources would be most appreciated.
Thank you,
Pat T.
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From: "Brenda Paternoster" <paternos...@appleshack.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:58 PM
To: "Francis Busschaert" <francis.busscha...@telenet.be>
Cc: <lace@arachne.com>
Subject: Re: [lace] USA
Hello Francis
It's not Chantilly
It's not hand made
It's not even big enough to be a shawl.
It is a machine made scarf - probably Leavers machine.
Brenda
On 6 Sep 2009, at 19:53, Francis Busschaert wrote:
i m not an expert but if i see those fotograps my little alamr
senors in my head say NOWAYYYYY
that is not handmade but ùmachien lace
i know there are some EXPERTS here
enlighten me please
the abay nr is ebay nr 110428639339
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-SILK-BLONDE-CHANTILLY-LACE-SHAWL-HANDEMBR-8_W0QQitem
Z110428639339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b60f506b&_trksi
d=p3286.c0.m14
Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/
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