I started the C& G course around the same time as Jane, but it took a while to complete as the Local Authority closed the initial class, amongst other complications!

As well as the stiffeners Jane mentioned, I tried various commercial stiffeners for blinds etc - and still preferred the PVA at the end for effectiveness and the fact that it didn't discolour. I have always applied it carefully and as little as possible to avoid filling in the holes. I will try to remember Jane's tip about detergent to break the surface tension. Interesting idea.

I used PVA to stiffen a 3D dragon's spine in 1999, and that is still stiff!

Test your threads for colour fastness before applying any colour fastness. One green silk I used became very dark when stiffened - and remained so, which disappointed me.

Sue Babbs
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