Don't take it too bad Brian. I once dared to suggest privately to an Ebay seller that a 'handmade white Chantilly shawl' was actually machine made. After formally banning me from his site, and after his wife repeatedly told me to do something more productive with my life like trying prostitution, and then explaining how he had handled 500 such shawls in his life, he finally ended up threatening to strangle me with a pice of Chantilly lace. All I could say was that I hoped it would be handmade. Laurie
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