The need for follow-up is very critical. We were having some  brainstorming 
in Ithaca. One suggestion made was that teachers could skype with  their 
students. The person who suggested this was thinking about the problems  that 
physical distance pose especially in America where it is quite likely that  
there is not a teacher for some distance. This person suggested that skype  
classes would remove the need for teacher and student to travel to be in the 
 same room. Also, video conferencing was mentioned. I think there may still 
be an  issue in terms of trying to find a time when all potential class 
members are  simultaneously available, assuming it is not one on one, which it 
could  be.  However, there might also be some potential for a class format 
where a  recorded lesson can be downloaded by the students and later they can 
receive  feedback on their work. Or possibly they could conference briefly 
with the  teacher and other students.
 
Meanwhile, I think that we should all have a good look at  the Ning site 
called Needle Lace Talk that was started by Lorelei Halley. This  site has 
been evolving to fill the need for needle lace instruction. In response  to 
students, a beginners tutorial was started. The beginners, who are from all  
over the world,  follow a set pattern at their own pace and can  have 
questions answered by others on the site, but especially by Liz Ligeti from  
Australia and Lorelei Halley. The Ning software is very good as it allows you 
to  
post pictures along with your questions. So the members of the site are able 
to  post pictures of their work and receive critiques. It is possible to 
post so  many pictures that the person offering advice can post diagrams and 
even post  photos of samples showing each stage of a difficult maneuver. It is 
amazing  how much can be done with this Ning software. I am a big fan of 
it. Even I can  post pictures easily on it, as I often do of hugely blown up 
details on old lace  for purposes of discussion. The Ning software was 
introduced as free, but as  soon as we became addicted to it, they put a price 
on 
it of about $250 a year to  maintain the site.  Personally, I think it is 
well worth it. (Yes, I am  being weaned onto the concept that one may have to 
accept a payment platform for  valuable content on the internet. The New 
York Times has been working  patiently with me to make me realize that :-)) A 
lot of people have  learned needlelace on Needle Lace Talk largely due to it. 
In fact there are 360  people who have joined this site since it started 
about a year and a half ago.  The site for Needle Lace Talk is 
_http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/) 
While I was at Ithaca, there were two ladies who had been  taking the 
beginners class. Around the coffee urn on the final day they were  expressing 
panic about the idea of returning home and trying to continue without  any 
support. I found myself thinking that we need an internet "genius bar" to  help 
people like them. In fact, if they were Needle Lacers there would be no  
problem helping them, because they could go to Needle Lace Talk. As always, an  
issue is who would be willing to man the genius bar, or maintain a Ning 
site.  But, then on the other hand, there are people on this list who are 
traveling  vast distances to demonstrate and teach, so if they are the same 
people who  would enjoy answering questions on the internet, it could work.
Devon
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/16/2011 3:54:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Dear  Chris,
You bring up an important point.   Especially for children, you need to 
have follow up.  You can't get  people inspired to do something, and then leave 
them high and dry.  There  is no lace 'group' here in Lancaster.  While I 
am aware of people who  make lace in the area, within, perhaps a half hour 
drive there may be as many  as a dozen.  But there is no organized group in 
the area for follow  up.  When I demonstrate for adults, I have a small half 
page of local  lace groups within a 100 mile radius, as well as IOLI, 
internet suppliers, and  a beginner's book I personally like for those who are 
going it alone.  I  drive at least 90 minutes to my lace group, and could not 
do 
that and then  spend all day with a have-a-go pillow, nor am I presently 
equipped to travel  that far for lace more than once a month.  I have energy 
issues, and I  ignore them at my peril.  I'll have to figure out a solution.  
I am  not up, as yet, to weekly teaching stints.  I know how much energy 
that  takes.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, toward the end of a  beautiful day.  

-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris  Brill-Packard <[email protected]>
>Sent: Oct 16, 2011 1:29  PM
>To: Arachne Lace List email <[email protected]>
>Subject:  [lace] Lace fish - hands on
>
>Dear Lyn,  I sent you  a email with the details / tips for a successful 
"hands
>on"  teaching of the fish.   
>
>You asked about a  bobbin........our group has
>used wood clothes hanger (the single  piece of wood divide).  They are 
sold in
>packets at hardware  stores.  
>
>We did not give out free bobbins, but did  have
>a notebook to get name, address, phone and email address to send  
invitation to
>our next meeting and to set up a beginners' group  of free lessons.    
Also,
>many people asked  up for a "supplier" list.   We had some grandmothers  
and
>divorced dads that were willing to purchase needed supplies  because they 
saw
>how interested their kids were in making bobbin  lace.   
>
>Just thinking about
>possibilities in  regards to ideas to reach kids and  adults:
>
>Historical
>society during school trip days  (contact historical society to find out 
dates
>and times that they are  scheduled)
>Festivals - all types - not just related  to
>1700-1900s.   We need some modern 
>State  Fairs
>County Fairs
>Cutural Centers
>Community College -  Art Department
>Fiber Art Department of  Museums
>Sewing
>Stores
>Quilt Stores
>Embroidery  guilds
>Girl Scouts - there are badges to be
>earned with  sewing/craft.
>Boy Scouts - badges related to home  skills
>
>I like
>the contest idea.....maybe we could do  that on an IOLI level for Kids?   
Maybe
>our groups would  foster more kids for the contest.   
>I have joined  several
>European Guilds over the years and have found lots of "modern,  creative" 
ideas
>for lace and patterns to share with my  group.   
>
>I do agree with the comment
>about  teaching "design" to the younger generation.  We need to think in  
terms
>of what excites them.  Young Beginners need to learn to  make completed 
items
>rather than strips of lace to keep their  attention.     
>Chris  Brill-Packard
>
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