I heartily agree with Joepie's comments on Piper's silks - also no connection to or interest in Piper's silks. The only Guttermann silk which I have seen in recent years has been matt, so looks more like cotton. My favorite Piper's silk is the twisted gloss silk, which has a wonderful shine to it, and you can get gimp thicknesses to go with it, if that is a consideration.

I don't know how fine a thread you are looking for, but Bart & Francis also carry a wonderful range:
http://www.bart-francis.be/index.php?action=home&lang=EN



Sue

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